Avdi Grimm wrote:
A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background:
* As someone who has contributed to OS projects, the lack of a
pre-existing set of regression tests in org-mode is actually *the*
most significant blocker to my getting involved in org-mode
development. I d
> "Avdi Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background:
>
> Jippie! Please stay with us for a few days :-D
[...]
As someone with also a decent amount of testing background, I'd like
to answer also.
> Did you work with unit-testing fra
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 14:44, Avdi Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the record, I normally would never expect the user to submit
> tests. A description of the problem and some sample data is all I
> expect. Writing the a test to reproduce the behavior is the
> programmer's responsibility a
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, here's your chance. This is something that has bothered me for quite
> some time, but I've never been able to reliably reproduce the problem. And
> it's such a small issue.
Thanks! I'll try to take a look tonight or
On 2008-Oct-23, at 17:42, Avdi Grimm wrote:
If someone would be so kind as to identify a small bug or feature, I
would be happy to demonstrate this workflow in the form of code, time
permitting.
Ok, here's your chance. This is something that has bothered me for
quite some time, but I've
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hm - how about:
>
> 1. A not yet existent elisp file test-worg.el, that defines a function
> hello-worg, and a variable lang, and simply puts "Hello Worg"into the
> minibuffer (if (string= lang "en")) and "Hallo Worg" (if
"Avdi Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background:
Jippie! Please stay with us for a few days :-D
> * As someone who has contributed to OS projects, the lack of a
> pre-existing set of regression tests in org-mode is actually *the*
>
(cc'ing the list again)
Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2008-Oct-23, at 17:26, Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I added this to the new page on worg. Please tell me: is it OK for you,
>> if I simply add your ideas there??
>>
> Sure put what you want there.
Great.
> FWIW, I
A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background:
* As someone who has contributed to OS projects, the lack of a
pre-existing set of regression tests in org-mode is actually *the*
most significant blocker to my getting involved in org-mode
development. I do all of my coding -
Ben,
I added this to the new page on worg. Please tell me: is it OK for you,
if I simply add your ideas there??
What do the others think?
Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The tutorial I'd need to write a test is one which lays out code I could copy
> and paste to do the following
>
>
I've been considering buckling down and doing some more ELisp coding,
which would mean org-mode coding because I've become ridiculously
dependent on org-mode. If I do, I would only do it in a test-first
way, because that's the only way I'll write code anymore; so it would
definitely be good to kno
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:55:41 +0100
> From: Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] How you can help
> To: Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: emacs-orgmode Org-Mode
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi,
I'd recommend ert.el, it is actively maintained, and I have it on good
authority that this the tool of choice for elisp unit testing.
http://github.com/ohler/ert/tree/master
,[from ert.el]
| ;;; Commentary:
|
| ;; ERT is a tool for automated testing in Emacs Lisp. Its main
| ;; feature
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:35:46AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Org users,
>
> I need to get control over the time I spent on developing
> Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending
> more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to
> seize the chance to
Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Perhaps the git repository should have a small collection of small org-
> mode files that reproduce certain bugs?
Ah, stupid me, Worg IS a git repo :-D
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Well, I was just looking at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-fr/UnitTesting
Unfortunately for me, I can't tell if Emacs comes with any builtin
framework already, so I downloaded one of the many options listed on
that page to my local site-lisp directory: http://www.wanglianghome.org/svn/test/te
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
[snip]
>
> If you know of someone who knows how to do automated tests in
> elisp, or some technique, package, whatever, please post it to the
> list, so we all can take a look at it and comment->decide
> something. This is _highly
Hi Ben,
I cc'ed the list.
The tests I described in my email to the list are not automated. The
reason for that is my lack of (e)lisp knowledge.
BUT, they where easy to handle for non programmers. I think the little
test will make it to the worg site this week, when all private data is
removed.
Sebastian Rose wrote:
> 5. I also think of little packages for testing parts of org.
I'm curious if you or someone else has any ideas for writing automated
tests for org-mode. I haven't the foggiest idea how someone would
write a test for the parts of org that control what is displayed on
Sebastian Rose wrote:
Should we put a page on worg by this name (see subject of this
thread)? We could show, how to turn on debugging, write a good bug
report, link to good elisp tutorials and describe how to use the elisp
debugger in emacs for simple debugging.
If no one stops me, I'll do it th
Should we put a page on worg by this name (see subject of this
thread)? We could show, how to turn on debugging, write a good bug
report, link to good elisp tutorials and describe how to use the elisp
debugger in emacs for simple debugging.
If no one stops me, I'll do it these days. As or me, a p
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Org users,
>
> I need to get control over the time I spent on developing
> Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending
> more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to
> seize the chance to get the
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