Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-06-18 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Matt, Matt Price writes: > I'm wondering what kind of work is required to make use of org-cite and > org-citeproc at present. In particular, I'm wondering what kinds of changes > I'll need to make to my current setup, and whether it's worthwhile to use > my ultra-slow coding skills to create

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-06-16 Thread Matt Price
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Richard Lawrence < richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Hi Aaron and all, > > Richard Lawrence writes: > > > Alright, I'll try to move to json.el, and possibly change to having > > org-citeproc generate Org markup in the meantime. > > Just a heads up: I've pushe

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-06 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Aaron and all, Richard Lawrence writes: > Alright, I'll try to move to json.el, and possibly change to having > org-citeproc generate Org markup in the meantime. Just a heads up: I've pushed some changes to my branch of Org to make org-cite use json.el, and to add a basic Org format writer t

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Rasmus writes: > Richard: do your FSF papers in order. Or do you plan to get them in > order? I haven't done them yet (never had a reason to!) but I have no problems with it and I'll get started on it. Best, Richard

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi, Richard Lawrence writes: > Hi Eric and all, > > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Wednesday, 1 Apr 2015 at 08:49, Andreas Leha wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> I am a happy biblatex user for all my 'own' documents. But (as was >>> mentioned previously) scientific journals that accept latex submissions

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Aaron Ecay writes: > I went round and round with myself about this, and concluded that we > ought to keep on working on the org-citeproc approach for now (drop > citeproc-java). But I do think someone eventually ought to reimplement > org-citeproc based on citeproc-js, to yield something th

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Aaron, Thanks for your comments, and for looking over my code! Aaron Ecay writes: > I’ve been (barely) following this discussion, but have been too busy to > do any actual coding. I sat down today to try to integrate Richard’s > branch with my work, but didn’t get very far. I think it woul

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Richard, Richard Lawrence writes: > Hi Tom and all, > > t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > >>> OK, I see, that makes things clearer. Would it make sense to have two >>> keywords, say LATEX_CITE_STYLE and CSL_FILE or similar, so that the >>> style can vary independently when exporting t

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Tom and all, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: >> OK, I see, that makes things clearer. Would it make sense to have two >> keywords, say LATEX_CITE_STYLE and CSL_FILE or similar, so that the >> style can vary independently when exporting to LaTeX vs. non-LaTeX? I'm >> thinking it will b

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Richard, hi all, First of all, thanks very much for your work! I’ve been (barely) following this discussion, but have been too busy to do any actual coding. I sat down today to try to integrate Richard’s branch with my work, but didn’t get very far. I think it would be a waste of effort to t

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Rasmus, Thanks, this is helpful. I will try to fix these things soon. Rasmus writes: > >> Hmm. But the citations are all just represented as >> nodes...surely that doesn't have to be defined elsewhere? > > You are right. Also, oolatex inserts citations as plain text as well. As > I recal

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Eric and all, Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 1 Apr 2015 at 08:49, Andreas Leha wrote: > > [...] > >> I am a happy biblatex user for all my 'own' documents. But (as was >> mentioned previously) scientific journals that accept latex submissions >> will require bibtex and won't support b

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-02 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 1 Apr 2015 at 08:49, Andreas Leha wrote: [...] > I am a happy biblatex user for all my 'own' documents. But (as was > mentioned previously) scientific journals that accept latex submissions > will require bibtex and won't support biblatex. So, I'd say that one of > the other meth

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-01 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Richard Lawrence writes: >> That being said, my gut feeling is that you have to define the data >> elsewhere. >> >> For example, to add a (sub)title to a odt document the field/keyword is >> defined in a file different from contents.xml and will just not be printed >> if used in contents.xml

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-01 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Richard, Richard Lawrence writes: > Hi Tom and all, > > Thanks for answering my questions! > > t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > >> With natbib, it is possible to give a pre-note and a post-note to the >> citation as a whole, but not to individual citations within it. In >> order t

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Tom and all, Thanks for answering my questions! t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > With natbib, it is possible to give a pre-note and a post-note to the > citation as a whole, but not to individual citations within it. In > order to support your syntax fully, I think BibLaTeX is needed

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Lawrence
Rasmus writes: > Richard Lawrence writes: > >> I don't really know anything about the ODT format, though. My code >> more-or-less blindly pastes Pandoc-generated XML into the document >> during Org ODT export. Can someone who knows more about the format take >> a look at the file and see if th

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-04-01 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi, Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 31 Mar 2015 at 12:13, Richard Lawrence wrote: >> Hi Eric and all, >> >> Eric S Fraga writes: > > [...] > >>> However, for some reason, libreoffice doesn't display the citations in >>> the ODT document you have included. I have had a look at the actual ODT

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Richard Lawrence writes: > Hi Tom and all, > > t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > >>> I know next to nothing about citations in general, so please bear with >>> me: if multi-cite support means being able to condense citations (e.g. >>> [1-3, 5, 9]), then bibtex can do at least some of that

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Rasmus
Richard Lawrence writes: > I don't really know anything about the ODT format, though. My code > more-or-less blindly pastes Pandoc-generated XML into the document > during Org ODT export. Can someone who knows more about the format take > a look at the file and see if there is some subtle probl

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Tom and all, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: >> I know next to nothing about citations in general, so please bear with >> me: if multi-cite support means being able to condense citations (e.g. >> [1-3, 5, 9]), then bibtex can do at least some of that >> (e.g. http://texblog.org/2007/05/

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 31 Mar 2015 at 12:13, Richard Lawrence wrote: > Hi Eric and all, > > Eric S Fraga writes: [...] >> However, for some reason, libreoffice doesn't display the citations in >> the ODT document you have included. I have had a look at the actual ODT >> file and it looks fine. Can you su

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha all, Nick Dokos writes: > Richard Lawrence writes: > >> However, there are a couple of other scenarios to think about: >> >> 1) Some people may still need to use plain BibTeX. Generating LaTeX >> that is intended to be processed with BibTeX, as opposed to BibLaTeX, is >> a little trickie

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Nick Dokos
Richard Lawrence writes: > However, there are a couple of other scenarios to think about: > > 1) Some people may still need to use plain BibTeX. Generating LaTeX > that is intended to be processed with BibTeX, as opposed to BibLaTeX, is > a little trickier, because (IIUC) BibTeX does not support

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Eric and all, Eric S Fraga writes: > On Saturday, 28 Mar 2015 at 10:53, Richard Lawrence wrote: >> I thought I should send an update to let you know that org-citeproc [1], >> the command-line citation processing tool I've been working on, now >> supports multi-cites. I believe that means it

Re: [O] org-cite and org-citeproc

2015-03-31 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Saturday, 28 Mar 2015 at 10:53, Richard Lawrence wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I thought I should send an update to let you know that org-citeproc [1], > the command-line citation processing tool I've been working on, now > supports multi-cites. I believe that means it is now capable of > processin