On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 at 22:37:20 PST,
Erik Hetzner wrote:
>
> […]
>
> I wrote a parser for pandoc citations (that assumes you start with a
> citation string, that is, it doesn’t work unless you have extracted
> the citation string from the document):
>
> https://bitbucket.org/egh/zot4rst/src/ma
For my use case, I find the native Org to Odt export has several limitations:
1. No support for bibtex
2. I end up using quite a bit of LaTeX-specific stuff for formatting tables and
graphics. All of that gets messed up when I do Org to Odt export.
I agree, a robust org to odt/docx export would
That could be an option. I was mostly looking at feasibility for org to
docx. There is no obvious advantage to go through markdown, I just had
some handy machinery in org-ref to export my cite links to the pandoc
format in that export. I have since figured out a simple way to insert
pandoc citation
>
> The conversion is not perfect, but it gets pretty far. Probably not far
> enough to use for production except in the simplest cases.
>
>
John,
If your main objective is support for citations, why not go from Org to LaTeX,
and then use Pandoc to convert from LaTeX to DocX? Is there an adva
There is a separation between the citation bits in an org-file (whether
they are org-links, or the pandoc format, etc...) and the formatted
bibliography. org-ref is really focused on providing functionality to
insert the citation keys (using reftex, or helm-bibtex right now, but
there are many oth
It turns out to be very easy to get pandoc citations into orgmode using
helm-bibtex. It is not even that difficult to make the pandoc citations
clickable to get similar features as in org-ref. They just don't have
the org-element support. Having tried this, I don't see any obvious
advantages over o
>
> With the latest version of org-ref, I can automate export from org
> through markdown to docx via pandoc like this:
Great job, once again!
Vikas
I can see how you could have a command insert links from a zotero database.
You just need some way to get a list of the keys for that. it looks like
zotxt could provide that. if not, it could be a few sqlite commands to get
it.
Lets say we have citations like: zotero:zotero-key or [@zotero-key]. T
John,
this does look very powerful. Do you see a path forward that would help
add zotero support to org-ref, probably using Erik's zotxt library? Does
that seem like a worthwhile goal for you?
Matt
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, John Kitchin
wrote:
> With the latest version of org-ref, I
With the latest version of org-ref, I can automate export from org
through markdown to docx via pandoc like this:
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(defun ox-export-to-docx-and-open ()
"Export the current org file as a docx via markdown."
(interactive)
(let* ((bibfile (expand-file-name (car (org-ref-find-b
i think I may have seen it these on the list at one point, but it's very
helpful to be reminded.
I do think that the default fonts, etc., are a bit of an acquired taste for
humanists; and I've gotten used to using custom styles in html & odt for
size & placing of images; but even without following
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 at 09:24:00 PST,
Richard Lawrence wrote:
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>
> Although my home-baked solution presently works for me, I am inclined to
> agree.
>
> I've just had a glance at: http://pandoc.org/README.html#citations
>
> It looks to me like Pandoc has a quite general solution, and it also
>
Rasmus writes:
> BTW: Org has an almost-agnostic format for storing citation data via
> org-bibtex.el. So perhaps it's easier to go from whatever to
> org-bibtex-format and from there to ox-backend-format. I think that's how
> pandoc does it as well.
Well, that would certainly suit me, as I al
I am very eager to see this work of yours, Christian. I also would very
much like to find a way to have a single, well-supported citation framework
in org -- I certainly think John's work looks incredible, and zotxt is very
powerful, but it would be fantastic if one could just choose a
bibliograph
Christian Moe writes:
> Richard Lawrence writes:
>
>> It looks to me like Pandoc has a quite general solution, and it also
>> looks like Org could use Pandoc's citation syntax as-is. I would
>> suggest borrowing this syntax as a starting point for building citation
>> support into Org.
>
> It's
Hi,
Christian Moe writes:
>> Blah blah [see @doe99, pp. 33-35; also @smith04, ch. 1].
>
> In my current homebrewn solution for Zotero, I have tried to do
> something similarly readable using Org link syntax (sorry, Rasmus!) with
> the database entry ID as link target, and parsing the description
Richard Lawrence writes:
> It looks to me like Pandoc has a quite general solution, and it also
> looks like Org could use Pandoc's citation syntax as-is. I would
> suggest borrowing this syntax as a starting point for building citation
> support into Org.
It's been years since I looked at Pand
I have not found the link syntax too constraining. Simple links like the
ones I use in org-ref are perfect for simple citation needs. It handles
all different kinds of citations (cite, citet, textcite,...) and
multiple citations. org-ref automates selection of keys and insertion
via reftex or helm.
Hi,
Richard Lawrence writes:
> Rasmus writes:
>
>> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
>> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend
>> support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).
>> ...
>> /Proper/ citation support (not links) i
Rasmus writes:
> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend
> support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).
> ...
> /Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is
> missing
Matt Price writes:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Christian Moe writes:
Actually, Rasmus wrote the following, not I.
>> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
>> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backe
Well, color me embarrassed. I never even noticed the switch to
zotxt. And I never tried with Standalone either. Just tinkered happily
away with Eric's excellent old solution and Firefox. Maybe I should check
out both before posting an obsolute solution with unnecessary
dependencies...
Will report
On Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 08:12, Matt Price wrote:
> For me, the main issue with this route is that I don't understand LaTex at
> all, and it seems like there's a bit of a steep learning curve to get to a
> working set up. Maybe someone can recommend a good guide for starting out
> in LaTex? It
Matt Price writes:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus wrote:
>> #+begin_rant
>>
>> The current state is a mess and not portable. E.g. there's at least two
>> Zotero projects, there's John Kitchin's code, there's ox-bibtex.el (which
>> IMO is not suitable for complicated citation requirem
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Rasmus wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Christian Moe writes:
>
> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend
> support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).
>
> #+begin_rant
>
>
Hi,
Christian Moe writes:
> I haven't yet announced it on the list, for three reasons. 1) Not very
> polished. There's some messy code, a poor man's user interface, and no
> editing support for multiple citations (but support for exporting
> them!). 2) It's part of a more ambitious project I set
Vikas Rawal writes:
>> My question: does anyone yet have a workflow that lets them export directly
>> to HTML or ODT?
>
> In my experience, exporting from Org to LateX, and then using pandoc to
> convert to odt works better than converting directly from Org to odt.
Being one of the authors of
For me, the main issue with this route is that I don't understand LaTex at
all, and it seems like there's a bit of a steep learning curve to get to a
working set up. Maybe someone can recommend a good guide for starting out
in LaTex? It does seem like somehting one should learn, I suppose.
On T
>
> My question: does anyone yet have a workflow that lets them export directly
> to HTML or ODT?
In my experience, exporting from Org to LateX, and then using pandoc to convert
to odt works better than converting directly from Org to odt. This is
particularly the case if you are using cita
Matt Price writes:
> My question: does anyone yet have a workflow that lets them export directly
> to HTML or ODT?
Hi, Matt,
Yes, now I have not just a workflow, but a code solution for
Org/Zotero/ODT export that has been tried and tested for a while. It now
supports multiple references in one
On Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 11:29, Matt Price wrote:
[...]
> My question: does anyone yet have a workflow that lets them export directly
> to HTML or ODT?
The following is for MS Word output, not ODT, but you can of course read
in Word files in Libreoffice and save as ODT if desired.
Although I d
Matt,
Thanks for sharing this. I'm afraid that I'm very new at reading
Emacs Lisp at this point. But I appreciate the explanation of your
aims and how you've tried to meet them. I'll try to contribute as I
can along the way.
Best regards,
Will
Hi will,
I haven't gotten very far with this yet, but adding a couple of lines to
the definition of org-add-link-type in org-zotxt.el (around line 150,
https://bitbucket.org/egh/zotxt-emacs/src/74702e2b2f2aa0427f099eb4fe69dce8709f67fc/org-zotxt.el?at=master)
at least allows for unformatted, plain-
Hi eveyrone,
I've just looked back through my email archives and from what I can tell,
almost everyone who uses Org to write papers uses LaTex for the final
product.
I have never learned to use Latex, mostly because, as a humanist, almost
none of my colleagues can use LaTex files, and the same go
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