On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Eric Schulte wrote:
> Tom Davey > writes:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > This is a very interesting discussion. I too have run into this issue,
> > and addressed it in a different way.
> >
> > My init.el contains only a defun and an add-hook. The defun is simple.
> > It adds a
Achim Gratz writes:
> Eric Schulte writes:
>> Because the above sequence of loading .el files and possibly falling
>> back to .org files is all performed by the `org-babel-load-file'
>> function, which is not defined until org has been required.
>
> Which confirms it "runs through the Org files e
Tom Davey writes:
> Hi folks,
>
> This is a very interesting discussion. I too have run into this issue,
> and addressed it in a different way.
>
> My init.el contains only a defun and an add-hook. The defun is simple.
> It adds a few miscellaneous directories to load-path and then makes
> the ca
Hi folks,
This is a very interesting discussion. I too have run into this issue,
and addressed it in a different way.
My init.el contains only a defun and an add-hook. The defun is simple.
It adds a few miscellaneous directories to load-path and then makes
the call to Eric's starter kit via org-b
Eric Schulte writes:
> That sounds like it should work, although I would go with the more
> complete but possibly overkill
>
> ;; emacs-lisp
> (package-initialize)
> (require 'org)
> (org-reload)
>
> Let me know if either of the above is sufficient to solve your problem
> and ensur
Eric Schulte writes:
> Because the above sequence of loading .el files and possibly falling
> back to .org files is all performed by the `org-babel-load-file'
> function, which is not defined until org has been required.
Which confirms it "runs through the Org files each time" as I had
assumed ear
Achim Gratz writes:
> Eric Schulte writes:
>> The starter kit does not "run through the Org files each time", rather
>> it tangles the .org files to .el files, and then on all subsequent loads
>> it loads directly from the .el files (unless the .org file is newer).
>
> So why does it need to load
Eric Schulte writes:
> The starter kit does not "run through the Org files each time", rather
> it tangles the .org files to .el files, and then on all subsequent loads
> it loads directly from the .el files (unless the .org file is newer).
So why does it need to load Org before activating the pac
After reading the first post in this thread, it seems that the problem
is likely caused by this commit [1], which changes the syntax of valid
code blocks. This means that an Org-mode file with certain types of
code blocks may either be valid before the commit, or valid after the
commit, but not bo
Robert Horn writes:
> All of my problems seem to arise from the bad interactions between
> starting with the built-in package version of org that is used by the
> org-babel-load-file, and then transitioning part way through its
> execution of the starter-kit.org to the elpa updated version of org.
Bastien writes:
>
> I also wish Emacs can read an ~/.emacs.org init file.
>
That is what the starterkit for emacs 24 is attempting to do. It's got
a ~/init.el that is just
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq starter-kit-dir
(file-name-directory (or load-file-name (buffer-file-name
;; load up
Achim Gratz writes:
> Org is already shown as a "built-in" package in recent Emacs if you care
> to look in package manager. I don't understand what you think "Emacs'
> core" is, but to me anything that is released and installed together
> with Emacs is "core", no matter how it gets into the tar
Bastien writes:
> For the current meaning of an Emacs package, it means moving
> Org outside of Emacs' core.
Org is already shown as a "built-in" package in recent Emacs if you care
to look in package manager. I don't understand what you think "Emacs'
core" is, but to me anything that is release
Achim Gratz writes:
> I think you are misunderstanding what packetizing Emacs' builtin
> packages means. Stefan Monnier has already said that he intends to have
> Org (and other packages that are maintained outside Emacs) as built-in
> packages within Emacs so that they become easier to update b
Bastien writes:
>> I hope that a later version of Emacs (not the upcoming 24.3, though)
>> will properly move the bundled Org into a package. That's been talked
>> about for a while, but has not happened since it will likely require a
>> few more tweaks to the way package manager works.
>
> Please
Hi Achim,
Achim Gratz writes:
> I hope that a later version of Emacs (not the upcoming 24.3, though)
> will properly move the bundled Org into a package. That's been talked
> about for a while, but has not happened since it will likely require a
> few more tweaks to the way package manager work
Robert Horn writes:
> Starterkit does have code that looked correct and proper for
> coordinating the init with elpa, and I think that for packages not
> used by org-mode it will be OK. But, the automagic startup executes the
> lisp code using babel from org files. This means that org and it's
>
Achim Gratz writes:
> Robert Horn writes:
>> I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a
>> bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231.
>
> Using two systems that hook into Emacs' startup sequence simultaneously
> is asking for trouble. It may be solveable by carefully orch
Robert Horn writes:
> I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a
> bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231.
Using two systems that hook into Emacs' startup sequence simultaneously
is asking for trouble. It may be solveable by carefully orchestrating
which step gets done
Hi Robert,
Robert Horn writes:
> And I can partially answer myself. The issue is with starterkit, not
> org-mode.
>
> It looks like starter-kit uses org-ob.el prior to package-initialize.
> This works properly if the initial distribution .elc files match the end
> result after elpa package proc
Robert Horn writes:
> I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a
> bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231.
>
> With the stock distribution org-mode (7.8.11) in emacs 24.2 there is no
> problem. With the elpa version 20121231 I get an error, see the
> attached output fr
I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a
bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231.
With the stock distribution org-mode (7.8.11) in emacs 24.2 there is no
problem. With the elpa version 20121231 I get an error, see the
attached output from emacs --debug-init.
It's not
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