[BUG] Export backend cross-references are broken [9.7.30 (release_9.7.30 @ /home/user/org-mode-git/lisp/)]

2025-06-04 Thread Louis Vigneras
Hi, Following yantar92’s suggestion on the matrix channel, I am reporting here what appears to be a bug. I have an index.org file with the following: ``` #+include: chapter-1.org #+include: chapter-2.org ``` In chapter-1.org I have the following: ``` * Heading [[file:chapter-2.org::*Heading

Re: Semantic Linking saves tedious work

2025-04-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2025-04-26 20:59]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Is the source code available anywhere? > > > > Of course it is available on request but my system is too complex. I would > > like to make the simpler system and first I need to find some binar

Re: Semantic Linking saves tedious work

2025-04-23 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2025-04-19 22:01]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Semantic Linking saves tedious work > > > > Here is video how it works: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk2VGnLYAkA > > ... > > Tools involved: Emacs Lisp functions, Python server for

Semantic Linking saves tedious work

2025-04-14 Thread Jean Louis
most relevant place. Tools involved: Emacs Lisp functions, Python server for text chunking and LLM Nomic Embed Text model. Jean Louis

Re: Is there any existing function in the org mode API...

2025-04-14 Thread Jean Louis
* Jean Louis [2025-04-14 14:20]: > Is there any existing function in the org mode API which would give > me all the org headings of a single file in a list? > > In particular, I would like to get the heading title separate with > the content in a cons. > > For example

Is there any existing function in the org mode API...

2025-04-14 Thread Jean Louis
quot;) ("* Heading #2") ("My text 2")) It is going to become very useful because many people are linking to headings how I know is it true that many people in org mode, many org mode users wish to link to headings? Jean Louis

Re: Best way to represent a directory tree in Org-mode

2025-04-04 Thread Jean Louis
#+TITLE: Testing #+LATEX_COMPILER: xelatex #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{fontspec} #+LATEX_HEADER: \setmonofont{DejaVu Sans Mono} % or another monospace font with Unicode support \begin{verbatim} /test ├── file-a ├── file-b └── file-c \end{verbatim} -- Jean Louis test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Best way to represent a directory tree in Org-mode

2025-03-30 Thread Jean Louis
th LaTeX, as the special chars are present in the > .tex file generated by Org-mode. Provide example. -- Jean Louis

Re: Best way to represent a directory tree in Org-mode

2025-03-28 Thread Jean Louis
es/" -> "config.properties"; "test/" -> "java/"; "java/" -> "com/"; "com/" -> "mycompany/"; "mycompany/" -> "AppTest.java"; } #+end_src I have just got nice picture with it. And this works too: #+begin_src sh :results output :exports both tree -L 3 --noreport /tmp #+end_src -- Jean Louis

Re: One big file or multiple small ones

2025-03-17 Thread Jean Louis
odel to transcribe text from audio speech. Interacting with computer with less effort is of course always more desirable. And I am surprised how perfect it works. As you can see, I can just talk and it gets transcribed straight into the Emacs. https://gnu.support/images/2025/03/2025-03-17/2025-03-17-22:41:29.mp4 -- Jean Louis

Re: One big file or multiple small ones

2025-03-13 Thread Jean Louis
User can freely speak and say "Save this file" or similar command When searching: - "Is there any meeting today?" - "What awaits me to do tomorrow?" Computer answers: - Meeting with Zororg is scheduled on Monday, but today and tomorrow there are no meetings, relax. And all that in natural language manner. The notion of your life in plain text is over. -- Jean Louis

Re: Automating Note Linking in Zetteldeft Using AI

2025-02-06 Thread Jean Louis
es planning of the knowledge. I don't want all links by hyperlinked just because they match, 70,000 documents is there, but I don't want them hyperlinked. I want specific hyperlinks hyperlinked. Many of them are also ranked, I worked with many. So I would like it by rank too. You have to plan first how to sort the information, which information, etc. Then you provide it to embeddings, but how? Where are you going to store vectors? Or RAG? Using PostgreSQL and vector type is good way to go. -- Jean Louis

How to enter | in the Org mode table without expanding cell?

2024-12-27 Thread Jean Louis
ot;123 | value" | | | || But I need this: | Key | Value | |-+-| | key | "123|value" | Is there way? Jean Louis

Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

2024-12-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2024-12-24 14:24]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table. > > > > Is that possible? > > Yes, why not? > If we make table fontification more granular in > `org-set-font-lock-de

Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

2024-12-23 Thread Jean Louis
* William Denton [2024-12-23 20:21]: > On Monday, December 23rd, 2024 at 01:45, Jean Louis wrote: > > > Instead of following: > > > > | Column | | Column | > > |---+---+---| > > | The dog is happy | | The dog is ha

I would like invisible table in Org mode

2024-12-21 Thread Jean Louis
I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table. Is that possible? Jean Louis

Re: save email(gnus) in org format

2024-12-20 Thread Jean Louis
extra function, to make it Org viewable format. Even automatic hyperlinking could be involved. -- Jean Louis

Is there a method to extract incomplete items from Org lists as strings?

2024-11-03 Thread Jean Louis
extraction of incomplete items by using some function. The extraction is to serve to create a new blob, new document (not file) as string, with only incomplete items. Jean Louis

Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org

2024-02-05 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2024-02-04 22:40]: > What do you think about an idea to modify Org mode front page > (https://orgmode.org/), adding the most recent blog posts and > discussions about Org mode? > > We might use Org-related records from Sacha's news and/or > https://planet.emacslife.com/ as a sou

Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org (Summary): Clarify the Org markup is human-readable

2024-01-03 Thread Jean Louis
* Thomas S. Dye [2024-01-02 08:39]: > Aloha Ihor, > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > > > @@ -22,6 +22,10 @@ ** Summary > > It relies on a lightweight plain-text markup language used in files > > with the =.org= extension. > > +Org files can be viewed using any text editor. You can read and > >

Re: A dream?

2023-04-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Eduardo Ochs [2023-04-16 01:45]: > do you have a page in https://gnu.support/ explaining in detail how > you teach Emacs to beginners? It would be nice to have something like > that... I just tell them to do Emacs Tutorial. There is no need for page when it is built-in. I tell them, open Emacs

Re: A dream?

2023-04-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Christopher Dimech [2023-04-15 22:37]: > > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:16 PM > > From: "Jean Louis" > > To: "George Mauer" > > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: A dream? > > > > * George Mauer [2023-0

Re: A dream?

2023-04-15 Thread Jean Louis
* George Mauer [2023-04-03 18:17]: > Emacs is a complex tool that itself can take a semester or more to get > productive in. I know I myself tried for years to move to it and was only > able to after learning vim bindings pretty well, and starting to use > Spacemacs. Forcing students to use emacs,

Re: Mention outli, and h speed-key

2023-03-25 Thread Jean Louis
* JD Smith [2023-03-25 05:22]: > > It is more visible, but I am trying to understand what o you consider > > better then outline-minor-mode > > It sets up headline regexps automatically and consistently, and adds > configurable styling and org-inspired speed keys on headings. At > core it is s

Re: Mention outli, and h speed-key

2023-03-24 Thread Jean Louis
* JD Smith [2023-03-10 07:03]: > One speed key I added to outli I really miss in org, so I added it: > > (if-let ((pos (cl-position '("Outline Visibility") org-speed-commands :test > #'equal))) > (cl-pushnew '("h" . outline-hide-sublevels) (nthcdr (1+ pos) > org-speed-commands))) > > Bas

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-03-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-03-08 16:29]: > > The UTC offset is property of the time zone. The future time zone > > definition will know what is it's UTC offset. > > UTC offset is indeed a property of the time zone. > However, UTC offset may be a subject of change in some time zones. Yes, and that is

Re: Org-mode notes about school lessons

2023-02-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Sébastien Gendre [2023-02-24 15:58]: > For each lessons, I need to note: > - Name > - Schedule > - Classroom > - Teacher name and e-mail > - Assistant name and e-mail > - URL to the web page of this lesson on our online learning website > - List of all distributed documents > - Note on each of t

Re: Link type in org-mode, but with org-roam ?

2023-02-22 Thread Jean Louis
* Cletip Cletip [2023-02-21 19:20]: > I am not thinking in advance about "queryable" information. I am > > thinking of structure, or types, and do not worry of future. All > > types, columns, anything is automatically capable to be queried. Solely the above paragraph is not giving me enough infor

Re: Bug: org-latex-export-to-pdf does not remove .tex file [9.4 (9.4-elpa @ /home/bruno/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.4/)]

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-17 16:32]: > Bruno BEAUFILS writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:55:34AM +, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > >> > How so? > >> > >> latexmk -interaction=nonstopmode > > > > Still do not get the problem. I though that the exit code of the > > underlying process was used

Re: Link type in org-mode, but with org-roam ?

2023-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Clément Payard [2023-02-16 13:16]: >  First of all, thank you for your answer. > > Sorry, I am not a researcher :(. I'm just a modest student with a passion > for emacs, org-mode and PKM environment. So I'm not a big thing ^^. But I > think I have a working brain and good ideas... so here I am.

Re: Bug: org-latex-export-to-pdf does not remove .tex file [9.4 (9.4-elpa @ /home/bruno/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.4/)]

2023-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-15 23:38]: > Bruno BEAUFILS writes: > > > When using the org-latex-export-to-pdf on any foo.org file I get the > > foo.pdf file produced the right way but I also get the foo.tex file. > > > > I think that the whole point of exporting to pdf is only to get the pdf > > fi

Re: Bug: org-latex-export-to-pdf does not remove .tex file [9.4 (9.4-elpa @ /home/bruno/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.4/)]

2023-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Bruno BEAUFILS [2023-02-15 21:52]: > When using the org-latex-export-to-pdf on any foo.org file I get the > foo.pdf file produced the right way but I also get the foo.tex file. > > I think that the whole point of exporting to pdf is only to get the pdf > file, avoiding the need to keep the late

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-15 18:17]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > That is not same case as Ihor, when he designated it as > > > > 2030-02-09 12:00 -0800 @UTC > > because there are no offsets @UTC time zone. > > I do not recall providing such example. May you

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-02-14 19:50]: > > What Ihor proposed is time stamp like: > > > > 2023-02-14 Tue 12:00:00 +0800 @UTC > > > > Though I just say when we put "UTC" that means normally "UTC time > > zone" and such has no prefix that is positive or negative, can be > > zero. > > Sigh. UTC is

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-14 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-02-14 14:45]: > On 14/02/2023 16:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:41:38AM +0100, Heinz Tuechler wrote: > > > Jean Louis wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 14.02.2023 07:00: > > > > Then just representation must be c

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-14 Thread Jean Louis
* Heinz Tuechler [2023-02-14 12:44]: > Jean Louis wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 14.02.2023 07:00: > > * to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-12 16:50]: > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33:40PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-10 13:48]

Re: [FR] Side-by-side images during export (was: [BUG] Org-mode Side-by-Side Images [9.5.3 (release_9.5.3-3-gd54104)])

2023-02-14 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-13 17:50]: > Gustaf Waldemarson writes: > > > Does something like that already exist in org-mode? Alternatively, > > what is the recommended and most portable approach to placing images > > side-by-side? > > No, AFAIK. Org is already a text structure that has el

Re: Link type in org-mode, but with org-roam ?

2023-02-14 Thread Jean Louis
ten used to find by link. Implement yourself. hyperscope-by-markup-and-column You want maybe Asciidoctor by name, or Org markup by description? hyperscope-by-people-id Searching by ID of people. hyperscope-by-rank Show those mo

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-14 Thread Jean Louis
* to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-12 16:50]: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33:40PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-10 13:48]: > > > Jean Louis writes: > > > > > > > If you start adding in Org "fixed" time with UTC offset, that

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-12 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-02-11 07:47]: > On 10/02/2023 10:29, Jean Louis wrote: > > 2030-02-09 12:00 -08 @UTC -- this time CANNOT be said to be "fixed > > UTC" > > I do not see any reason why obviously invalid timestamp draws so much > attention. > > Resol

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-12 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-10 13:48]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > If you start adding in Org "fixed" time with UTC offset, that is a new > > type of timestamp, as it is not common in world. > > It is how ISO8601 defines offsets. - did you say you wish to re

Re: emojis in tags?

2023-02-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Robert Nikander [2023-02-10 06:36]: > Does anyone else think it might be nice to allow emojis in tags? I > used to use OmniFocus before I got into org-mode. I had some tags > that were certain symbols that had meaning to me. While I do not use it in tags, I use Emojis in headings. And that cr

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-08 13:36]: > > Is it Org as program? > > > > Or is it human? > > Both. > > The idea is to ensure exact point of time relative to UTC. > For example, when you want to schedule something exactly 10024 hours in > future, regardless of time zone changes. I got it, thank yo

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-07 Thread Jean Louis
* ypuntot [2023-02-05 16:03]: > For the Poll, the Jeans proposal would be to introduce manually: > [2024-02-04 12:00 @America/Vancouver] I never recommend or recommended to anybody, ever, to make timestamps manually. That is for computer to make it right. For human, that is to use calendar. Cale

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-02-05 20:06]: > On 05/02/2023 01:59, ypuntot wrote: > > Then, given the time zone and the local time, you can know UTC. > > If orgmode gets the UTC there is not ambiguity. > > Mapping from local time to UTC may be ambiguous, so mapping from local time > to time zone offset may

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-06 17:11]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-05 13:45]: > >> [2024-02-04 12:00 @-08,America/Vancouver] will use fixed -8 offset > > > > What does that mean practically? Provide example for better > > understa

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info

2023-02-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Marcin Borkowski [2023-02-06 18:34]: > Out of curiosity: in what time zone you were when you sent this??? In EAT, by heart in Berlin, Europe, at time in future during DST, as to test various features. Forgot to change time back by using NTP. And e-mail went, discovering few problems in the ma

Re: [BUG] list.orgmode.org managed to parse a message in future: 2023-10-29 [9.6.1 (release_9.6.1-223-gc8d20d @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2023-02-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Greg Minshall [2023-02-05 21:43]: > so, i wouldn't blame mail services for accepting mail with odd dates. > but, i would question MUAs (like mh-e, mutt, etc., i guess) that allow > one to send e-mail with odd dates. (i mean, i guess if the person > stands on their head and swears up and down th

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-05 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-05 13:45]: > [2024-02-04 12:00 @-08,America/Vancouver] will use fixed -8 offset What does that mean practically? Provide example for better understanding. - The UTC offset is not certain to remain fixed in the future. - If you do not have the time of creation of the

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-05 Thread Jean Louis
* Ypo [2023-02-05 00:41]: > I have been thinking about how I would use this feature. So use cases > appeared, which arose some doubts about how to use this feature, and an > opinion for the Poll surged: > > If I wanted to assist to a "Mastering Emacs book club" meeting in > America/Vancouver, whi

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-05 Thread Jean Louis
* ypuntot [2023-02-04 22:01]: > Great link! > https://spin.atomicobject.com/2016/07/06/time-zones-offsets/ > > "Given a local time and an offset, you can know UTC time, but you do > not know which time zone you’re in (because multiple timezones have > the same offset)." Exactly. > So, given a t

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-05 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-04 13:58]: > I used "UTC+2" because it is how offsets are often represented. > For example, https://time.is/London is displaying the following: > > Time in London, United Kingdom now > ... > Time zone > - Currently Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), UTC +0 >

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info

2023-02-03 Thread Jean Louis
* Stefan Nobis [2023-02-03 18:50]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Specifying time zone is not ambiguous as long as you use the TZ > > database for specifications! > > That's wrong and you know it. What I know is based on research and good references. It seems you did

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-03 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-01 14:12]: > Let me try to explain better. Just specifying time zone is ambiguous > once per year during daylight transition. For reason to make it unambiguous, people (representatives of countries in international associations) are creating the TZ database, and maintain

Re: [BUG] list.orgmode.org managed to parse a message in future: 2023-10-29 [9.6.1 (release_9.6.1-223-gc8d20d @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2023-02-03 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-03 14:13]: > Hi, > > We currently have a message in future on top of > https://list.orgmode.org/ > > The message is > https://list.orgmode.org/ZT2vNKsf3Lp5xit3@protected.localdomain/raw, and > it does not contain the future dates in headers. Just in the body. > > Are w

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-03 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-02 11:38]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-01 15:23]: > >> [2022-11-12 14:00 @UTC+2] > >> [2022-11-12 14:00 @UTC-2:30] > >> > >> are also fine within the proposed format. > > > > The a

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Stefan Nobis [2023-02-01 12:13]: > writes: > > > 2023-03-23 02:30 @Europe/Berlin refers to /two/ points in time, thus > > it /is/ ambiguous. > > As far as I understand the definitions, the point in time "2023-03-23 > 02:30 @Europe/Berlin" is clearly defined as 2023-03-23 02:30 UTC+0100. > >

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-01 13:30]: > Tim Cross writes: > > > The real question is, can the additional complexity associated with > > including both a time zone name and an offset be justified in order to > > handle the very small number of time stamps which will fall within the > > daylight sa

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-01 15:23]: > [2022-11-12 14:00 @UTC+2] > [2022-11-12 14:00 @UTC-2:30] > > are also fine within the proposed format. The above format is unclear to me. I look at timestamps every day, too many, often change them. I cannot understand what you mean. If there is considere

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-01 12:22]: > ...which stems from the fact that the very concept of "time zone" > is somewhat ambiguous, too. For human who reads it without calculating anything, yes. For computer which is supposed to be programmed by using the time zone database, no. > Some time zo

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-02-01 15:42]: > Indeed. Org is used by a variety of users with different needs. What I > just demonstrated is that specifying the time zone is not always > necessary in timestamps. Specifying time zone in time stamps is not necessary! But using the time zone is necessary i

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-02-01 12:53]: > > Let me try to explain better. Just specifying time zone is ambiguous > > once per year during daylight transition. > > > > [2023-03-29 02:30 @Europe/Berlin] is special. > > > > According to https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/germany/berlin, > > 2023-03-29 is

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-02-01 11:10]: > I think the confusion relates to context interpretation. If you see > @Europe/Berlin in isolation, then it is ambiguous as it can refer to > two different time zone definitions (standard v daylight savings). Of course, without the time stamp, the time zone alone

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-01 10:20]: > Either I understand you wrong, or you don't know what you are > talking about. 2023-03-23 02:30 @Europe/Berlin refers to /two/ > points in time, thus it /is/ ambiguous. If you use disambiguating > "time zones" (MEZ vs MESZ in this case) you can resolve that

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-02-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-02-01 10:05]: > Aloha Jean Louis, > > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-31 16:46]: > > > Specifying just @Europe/Berlin is ambiguous around the daylight > > > savings > > > transition. > > > >

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-01-31 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-31 16:46]: > Specifying just @Europe/Berlin is ambiguous around the daylight savings > transition. Sorry, I cannot see practical example why is it ambiguous. Unless programmer does not take all information in account, it is not ambigous. People on this planet agree on ti

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-01-31 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-31 16:46]: > >>For time ranges, we will only allow a single offset and time zone > >>specifier for both start and end times: > >>[2022-11-12 8:00-9:00+08] > >>If different time zones are necessary to specify the start/end times, > >>users can still use

Re: [POLL] Proposed syntax for timestamps with time zone info (was: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda)

2023-01-31 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-31 14:48]: > I will not follow the standards fully because the available standards > are not designed to be easily understood by humans. Very right, thank you. > 1. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended/ >2022-07-08T02:14:07+02:00[Euro

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-31 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-31 11:16]: > On 31/01/2023 14:04, Jean Louis wrote: > > I have given facts, and references with the sole intention to help in > > understanding so that Org programmers do not start relying on UTC > > offset alone, as that is not how other programs wor

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
Dear Heinz, Thanks, let me see. * Heinz Tuechler [2023-01-31 01:02]: > Dear Jean Louis, > > it appears to me that you mix two aspects. I agree with you that a time > zone needs an offset from UTC to be defined. Consequently the definition > of a time zone requires an offset. Ye

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-31 01:05]: > Jean, > > you have a very irritating habit of changing the topic of the discussion > in order to push whatever you feel you want to argue about. My response > to you had nothing to do with all the irrelevant points you insist on > repeating despite numerous attem

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-29 23:38]: > Yes, a timezone is defined by the offset it has from UTC Other way around Tim, the UTC offset is defined for the time zone. Time zone is not derived fro UTC offset, that does not work. UTC offset is derived from time zone. > Yes, a location time zone may change

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-29 09:33]: > On 29/01/2023 11:09, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Tim Cross [2023-01-28 00:15]: > > > > > • Offset (fixed) > > > > >• This captures the idea of "when did it happen for the person who > --

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
Dear Thomas, I give my best to find references for you and explain you the possible problem in calculation of time stamps. That problems exist is clear. To solve problem it is important to first define it. And when there are developers reading it, I wish to provide best possible references for th

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-29 09:33]: > On 29/01/2023 11:09, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Tim Cross [2023-01-28 00:15]: > > > > > • Offset (fixed) > > > > >• This captures the idea of "when did it happen for the person who > --

Re: [OT] email opens (was: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch))

2023-01-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Gregor Zattler [2023-01-28 17:09]: > Yes, because what they are measuring is "email opens" via > web pixels and such tracking technologies. That's might be > a reason why Thunderbird does not show up there. > > So while this data somehow shows the sad state of affairs, > it is not relevant to

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-27 18:22]: > I was unsure if goto-mode is a typo or some 3rd party package. Have > you written that you are aware which way it is implemented? I am aware of inconsistencies, and I wish Emacs would have it centralized. > List of recognized protocols is not a user option, it

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-28 00:15]: > > > >> What kinds of representations would a calendar system capable of > >> handling timezones require? > >> > >> • Instant (fixed) > >> • This is referring to an unambiguous moment in time > >> • e.g., 2007-02-03T05:00:00.000Z > >> • Offset (fixed) > >> •

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Sterling Hooten [2023-01-27 15:50]: > This isn’t (much) of a problem from a display format perspective > because we can parse the encoded format and present the user with a > human readable version. Org files shall still be readable as plain text IMHO. As Org textual structure has been adopted

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Sterling Hooten [2023-01-27 09:06]: > Offset > Constant duration difference between times of two time scales > (ISO). i.e., a quantity to combine with a time scale to produce > a wall time. e.g., Nepal uses a +5:45 offset from the UTC time > scale. I would be c

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-26 19:21]: > On 25/01/2023 00:49, Jean Louis wrote: > > When goto-mode works with mid: by me setting up browse-url-handlers, > > then I have expected Org to work as well. > > Do you mean `goto-address-mode'? Have you had a look into its > im

Re: This is out of thread subject

2023-01-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-25 21:01]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Haven thanks Firefox developers did not complain on users setting > > their own content types. Firefox can open Org content type and launch > > Emacs on it, but Emacs "can't" as it

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-26 Thread Jean Louis
* AW [2023-01-26 13:00]: > This is about a maildirs of kmail on my local machine. The E-Mails are being > indexed by akonadi on the side of kde-pim. But referring to a certain E-Mail > from orgmode with a kind of link fails, because I'd need to got to the > maildir > and search for the specifi

Re: Should Org provide commonly used link types?

2023-01-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-25 21:15]: > So, the suggested links are: > 1. pdf + page > 2. video/audio + timestamp > 3. epub/djvu/mibi + page > > Note that all these are basically file: links. While we can make users > say pdf:... or video:..., or would be more convenient to extend file: > link ins

Re: Should Org provide commonly used link types?

2023-01-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-25 21:15]: > Jean Louis writes: > > >> Suggestions welcome > > > > Main suggestion would be to make interface for users to easy setup > > those hyperlinks. > > > > If user is supposed to adapt mind to programmer by setting t

This is out of thread subject

2023-01-25 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-25 18:33]: > I had in mind another person: > > Re: URLs with brackets not recognised. Wed, 12 May 2021 22:06:50 +0200. > > I disagree. URLs are well-specified. Per RFC 3986, the characters > > allowed in a URL are [A-Za-z0-9\-._~!$&'()*+,;=:@\/?]. Org mode should > > implem

Should Org provide commonly used link types?

2023-01-25 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-25 15:56]: > What we can do is add some more known link types. Some of them will use > `browse-url' as :follow link parameter. > > However, what are the link types which are worth including into the Org > code? I am looking into the protocols supported by Firefox now. >

Re: Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena)

2023-01-25 Thread Jean Louis
* Richard Stallman [2023-01-25 07:32]: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > Would someone please tell me

Re: Org mode links: Open a PDF file at a given page and highlight a given string

2023-01-25 Thread Jean Louis
* AW [2023-01-25 14:48]: > Has this been done? I'm struggeling (again), how to link to a certain page of > a PDF, being opened in okular. > > ./link/xyz.pdf::123 does not open the pdf at p. 123 Simply do elisp: links with the below function: [[elisp:(rcd-okular "/home/user/my-file" 2 "small p

Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-24 20:12]: > On 22/01/2023 14:48, Tim Cross wrote: > > Timestamp for a log > > record I would probably want or one of the > > variants because the most common way I use those types of timestamp is > > in diagnosing problems and comparing revords from various locations > > w

Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-24 07:51]: > On 24/01/2023 09:44, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > > Max Nikulin writes: > > > > > > I believed that [2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@+1100] unambiguously suggests > > > offset from UTC. > > > > Not for a casual programmer like me. The timestamp alone might easily be > > read a

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-24 14:19]: > mid: if a known standard, as Max pointed in the earlier message: > > RFC 2392 - Content-ID and Message-ID Uniform Resource Locators. 1998 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392 It is "proposed standard" and far from any ordinary use. > It makes more sense t

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-24 12:41]: > > This is weird since ever. I've been talking to some collegues and everybody > > has his/her own special approach. Mostly producing a PDF from the E-Mail > > and > > saving this and its attachments somewhere. That's a thing that bothered me > > for > >

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-24 20:25]: > On 24/01/2023 01:37, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > All URLs defined by Emacs that are to be run by browse-url in Org > > shall be allowed by org, to let the Emacs settings pass through. > > > > And not to hard code it in Org. >

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Bruno Barbier [2023-01-24 20:31]: > > [[elisp:(my-handler "I am ok here")][my handler]] > > Org also allows the user to define his own link types: > > (info "(org) Adding Hyperlink Types") I understand. You see, Org is part of Emacs, me I expect that when I follow Emacs Instructions that O

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-24 18:52]: > > I am mostly concerned that channelling mid: links to browse-url will not > > work (open empty page in browser) in most cases. This is more confusing > > than not having mid: link handler at all. > > For me it may be a reason to not enable to enable "mid:" lin

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-24 12:43]: > Max Nikulin writes: > > > On 23/01/2023 17:40, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > >> I am not even sure if we need to make Org open mid: links via > >> `browse-url'. Maybe it should be something else? IDK. > > > > Do you know an alternative? Org already uses this pack

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-23 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-23 14:49]: > I agree that linking mail messages and Org notes is important. On the other > hand my impression is that the "mid:" URI protocol is not adopted wide > enough by mail user agents yet, so it is too early to enable it by default > in Org. All URLs defined by Emacs

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-23 Thread Jean Louis
* AW [2023-01-23 16:58]: > Am Montag, 23. Januar 2023, 11:40:24 CET schrieb Ihor Radchenko: > > AW writes: > > >> We could support mid: is the corresponding url schema existed and > > >> supported by various OSes. > > > > > > Isn't this rather important? How many users of orgmode get TODOs via >

Re: Link from orgmode file to E-Mail (using kmail or notmuch)

2023-01-22 Thread Jean Louis
* AW [2023-01-22 21:49]: > Isn't this rather important? How many users of orgmode get TODOs via E-Mail > and need an efficient way to come back from the TODO to its origin? Absolutely! There are many uses apart from tasks, there are attachments. Legally is better not to delete attachment from

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