On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
wrote:
> Rasmus writes:
>
>> How about adding the possibility to add hooks to org-fill-paragraph?
>> So that people can add "extensions" to fill as they want and the core
>> function can rely on org-element only?
>
> You can `defadvice' anything t
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
> I'm just pointing out an ergonomy (or consistency) annoyance in your
> proposal. I'm not thrilled by faking the filling mechanism.
Well, that has nothing to do with consistency (neither with ergonomy,
unless you produce a large scale statistical
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> to help me understand what kind of problems one could face with HTML (or
>> another back-end), could you give a concrete example?
>
> line 1
> line 2
> \[1+1\]
>
> ==>
&
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Ignoring \[...\] when filling the paragraph is misleading. You may
> believe the object doesn't belong to the paragraph at all. I think M-q
> should, on the contrary, give clues about the structure of the document.
>
> Also, it doesn't make a difference when exporting to
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Ignoring \[...\] when filling the paragraph is misleading. You may
> believe the object doesn't belong to the paragraph at all. I think M-q
> should, on the contrary, give clues about the structure of the document.
>
> Also, it doesn't make a difference when exporting to
>> without having to introduce the undesired Cons. The behavior is a
>> follows:
>> - if \[...\] is inline, behave as before.
>> - if \[ is the first non space character of a line and the closing \]
>> is the last non space character of a line (possibly spanning several
>> lines), then do not fill
Goaziou
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Federico Beffa writes:
>>
>>> + (save-excursion
>>> +(org-mark-element)
>>> +(org-indent-region (point) (mark
>>
>> The function shouldn't set the mark. The following should be enough:
&g
> Attached you find a patch with the proposed modification. I would
> greatly appreciate if you could consider it for inclusion in org-mode
> and provide feedback.
Here a more lispy version of the function
`org-fill-paragraph-construct-regions' used in the patch.I guess it
could be more appealing
>>> The current proposal is to make them elements instead of objects in Org
>>> syntax (i.e, a `latex-environment' instead of a `latex-fragment'). In
>>> a nutshell:
>>>
>>> - Pros:
>>>+ conform to LaTeX intent,
>>>+ impossible to fill.
>>> - Cons:
>>>- documents containing \[...\] mi
> It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some
> opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use
> that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back
> and check all your old presentations each time you upgrade org, you are,
> I would gu
>> 5. Existing documents are very easy to fix.
>>
>
>Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken
>before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very
>carefully, it still caused many problems (still does).
>So I don't buy the "very easy to fix" part: it will bite somebody
>
> I didn't read the other thread is details, but it seems the most
> sensible thing to do is alter the org fill function(s). These seems
> to rely on org-element, though, and I'm guessing that is why a syntax
> change is necessary, yes?
I would be perfectly happy with this behavior. Can't comment
Thanks for the suggestion. Please find attached the improved patch.
Regards,
Federico
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> + (save-excursion
>> +(org-mark-element)
>> +(org-indent-region (poi
> So what exactly is the problem?
The problem is that \[...\] is often used for long/complicated
equations. If you allow auto-fill to change/modify your carefully
written equation, it becomes very difficult to read.
Regards,
Fede
Please find attached the patch as discussed.
Regards,
Fede
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bastien wrote:
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> To be honest, I do not know. But, the original cdlatex-tab function
>> takes those parameters and I thought it would be a good idea to p
Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the
following reasons:
1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which
must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would
therefore make sense to conform to the borrowed syntax.
2. the alternati
>> the parameters are just in case you want to use this function
>> non-interactively in place of cdlatex-tab.
>
> Is there a real use-case for non-interactive use?
To be honest, I do not know. But, the original cdlatex-tab function
takes those parameters and I thought it would be a good idea to p
Hi,
> Why those parameters?
>
the parameters are just in case you want to use this function
non-interactively in place of cdlatex-tab.
> I'm not sure it's worth it. You can indent the element with M-h C-\
> easily enough, no?
Because typing one key combination is faster than typing 3 and there
In principle, to avoid breaking existing documents, you could
introduce a variable to set org-mode in legacy mode.
Regards,
Fede
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> In the end of the day the reason why I started lo
in advance for any advice.
Best Regards,
Fede
P.S.: I've attached for reference two pages, from the book written by
LaTeX's creator (the book I've mentioned on my first email), on how to
use the various mathematical constructs.
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Federico Beffa wr
,
Fede
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Nicolas Goaziou
wrote:
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> Of course \[ 1+1 \] is valid LaTeX syntax, just as inline
>> \begin{displaymath} 1+1 \end{displaymath} is valid.
>
> But \begin{displaymath} 1+1 \end{displaymath} isn't valid in a
Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
>> According to the LaTeX manual and reference "LaTeX: A Document
>> Preparation System", L. Lamport, \[ ... \] is a short form for a
>> displaymath environment. Citing the reference:
>&g
Hi,
when you enable org-cdlatex and insert a LaTeX environment by pressing
M-{, the new environment is inserted ignoring indentation. To correct
for that it is not enough to press TAB as TAB is locally bound to
cdlatex-tab and moves the cursor to the next "interesting" part of the
environment.
Fo
Hi,
I'm a long time LaTeX user starting to use the excellent org-mode.
I've noticed what I believe is a wrong interpretation of the LaTeX
syntax by org-mode:
According to the LaTeX manual and reference "LaTeX: A Document
Preparation System", L. Lamport, \[ ... \] is a short form for a
displaymath
Hi,
is there any plan to make org-babel a minor-mode (similarly to orgtbl)?
Regards,
Fede
Hi,
when I insert a LaTeX environment with the cdlatex keybinding C-{, the
environment is not properly indented as the rest of the text and the TAB
key is bound to the cdlatex functions. Is there a way to get it properly
aligned directly, without having to select the region and press TAB?
I would
($$, ...).
Regards,
Fede
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Rasmus wrote:
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to have a mathematical equation typeset in latex and
> > automatically generated by sympy, embedded in an equation environment:
> >
> > #+
writing texts including a lot of mathematical expressions.
I guess I will have to dig into filters.
Regards,
Fede
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo <
jorge.a.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Federico Beffa writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would lik
Suppose you want to use a program such as Sympy or Maxima to find
the analytic solution of a complicated equation. After this you want
to make use of that solution for numerical evaluation of various
cases.
Is it safe to use the analytic results (without using a session) in the
followi
Hi,
I would like to have a mathematical equation typeset in latex and
automatically generated by sympy, embedded in an equation environment:
#+NAME: mass-energy
#+BEGIN_SRC python :results raw :exports results :wrap EQUATION
import sympy as sp
E, m, c = sp.symbols('E, m, c', real=True
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