Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Oct 23, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Don't know how often the git repo is published. Bernt and Ben, are you 'worgers' allready? I think it's published hourly (maybe) and yes I have access to Worg. The webserver pulls changes from the

Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH 1/3] Fix some typos and duplication in the ChangeLog

2008-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
applied, thanks. - Carsten On Oct 23, 2008, at 12:27 PM, James TD Smith wrote: --- lisp/ChangeLog | 22 +++--- 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-) mode change 100755 => 100644 lisp/ChangeLog diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog old mode 100755 new mode

[Orgmode] Re: worg for bug reports and feature requests was: (Regression testing for org-mode)

2008-10-23 Thread Robert Goldman
Eric Schulte wrote: > Robert Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Avdi Grimm wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Eric Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, should we start tracking bug reports somewhere (worg), so that they can be claimed, tested against, and repaired? >>>

[Orgmode] Re: worg for bug reports and feature requests was: (Regression testing for org-mode)

2008-10-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Robert Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Avdi Grimm wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Eric Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Also, should we start tracking bug reports somewhere (worg), so that >>> they can be claimed, tested against, and repaired? >> >> Not a bad idea. Normall

Re: [Orgmode] Regression testing for org-mode

2008-10-23 Thread Robert Goldman
Avdi Grimm wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Eric Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm pessimistic that the colossal amount of work involved in wrapping >> all of org-modes extensive and varied functionality into a test >> framework can/should actually be completed. Would it be suffic

[Orgmode] Re: [GitHub #1050] format org-mode READMEs for html display (without using emacs)

2008-10-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Chris, I'll 'CC the org-mode mailing list and see if anyone has any ideas as to your question. non-elisp (preferably Ruby, maybe CommonLisp) tools for exporting org-mode files to html. I don't believe such a thing currently exists. Along the lines of an independent org-mode to html convert

[Orgmode] Re: Sync org-mode files in different computers

2008-10-23 Thread Flávio de Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason F. McBrayer) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flávio de Souza) writes: > >> I would like to know how I sync org-mode files in different computer >> over local network and over the internet. > > I think most people will agree that the best way to sync org-mode files > is to kee

[Orgmode] Re: Sync org-mode files in different computers

2008-10-23 Thread Flávio de Souza
Ian Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Hi, I am a new emacs user and I am exploring org-mode which is really >>> amazing. >>> >>> I would like to know how I sync org-mode files in different >>> computer over local network and over the internet. >> >> Hi, >> >> I personally use git to sync

Re: [Orgmode] Regression testing for org-mode

2008-10-23 Thread Avdi Grimm
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Eric Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm pessimistic that the colossal amount of work involved in wrapping > all of org-modes extensive and varied functionality into a test > framework can/should actually be completed. Would it be sufficient to > simply begi

Re: [Orgmode] Regression testing for org-mode

2008-10-23 Thread Eric Schulte
I've added a "testing tools" section and a simple example of an org-mode test using ert to Sebastian's org testing page in worg. I don't mean to advocate for ert, it is simply the only elisp testing framework that I have any experience with. I'm pessimistic that the colossal amount of work invol

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Eric Schulte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason F. McBrayer) writes: > Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Some kind of regression testing framework would be awesome. Org-mode is >> large enough that this is almost a necessity to keep things stable and >> bug-free. >> > > Maybe something like this: http://www

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Avdi Grimm
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Richard Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The nature of OSS means that the community using the product keep it > stable and bug free. I dont think the efforts to produce meaningful > regression tests would be beneficial in an ever morphing product like > org-mode.

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Avdi Grimm
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm - how about: > > 1. A not yet existent elisp file test-worg.el, that defines a function > hello-worg, and a variable lang, and simply puts "Hello Worg"into the > minibuffer (if (string= lang "en")) and "Hallo Worg" (if

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Richard Riley
Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Running a minimal emacs should suppress custom config files: >> emacs -q -l yourtest.el > > Added this one to the Clippboard section on new org-tests/index.org in > Worg.git. (this section will be tem

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
"Avdi Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background: Jippie! Please stay with us for a few days :-D > * As someone who has contributed to OS projects, the lack of a > pre-existing set of regression tests in org-mode is actually *the* >

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
(cc'ing the list again) Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2008-Oct-23, at 17:26, Sebastian Rose wrote: > >> Ben, >> >> I added this to the new page on worg. Please tell me: is it OK for you, >> if I simply add your ideas there?? >> > Sure put what you want there. Great. > FWIW, I

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some kind of regression testing framework would be awesome. Org-mode is > large enough that this is almost a necessity to keep things stable and > bug-free. > Maybe something like this: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ElUnit ? -- +-

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Richard, Richard Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Added this one to the Clippboard section on new org-tests/index.org in >> Worg.git. (this section will be temporary...) > > Something like the above should only be a link (at most) to the emacs > manual. Reproducing standard info is bad in

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Avdi Grimm
A few points, from someone with a decent amount of testing background: * As someone who has contributed to OS projects, the lack of a pre-existing set of regression tests in org-mode is actually *the* most significant blocker to my getting involved in org-mode development. I do all of my coding -

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Ben, I added this to the new page on worg. Please tell me: is it OK for you, if I simply add your ideas there?? What do the others think? Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The tutorial I'd need to write a test is one which lays out code I could copy > and paste to do the following > >

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Ben Alexander
On 2008-Oct-23, at 16:49, Richard Riley wrote: Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Running a minimal emacs should suppress custom config files: emacs -q -l yourtest.el Added this one to the Clippboard section on new org-tests/index.or

[Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Bernt Hansen
Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't know how often the git repo is published. > Bernt and Ben, are you 'worgers' allready? I think it's published hourly (maybe) and yes I have access to Worg. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remem

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Avdi Grimm
I've been considering buckling down and doing some more ELisp coding, which would mean org-mode coding because I've become ridiculously dependent on org-mode. If I do, I would only do it in a test-first way, because that's the only way I'll write code anymore; so it would definitely be good to kno

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Robert Goldman
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:55:41 +0100 > From: Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Orgmode] How you can help > To: Sebastian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-orgmode Org-Mode > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=ye

[Orgmode] Question about emitting

2008-10-23 Thread Robert Goldman
I'd be interested in working on this. I have to use a couple of wikis, so I have been working on some code to generate wiki format out of Org. I'd be interested in cooperating with anyone who takes up Carsten's challenge to help with org exporting. I'm particularly interested because I'd like to

[Orgmode] Regression testing for org-mode

2008-10-23 Thread Robert Goldman
There's a page on the EmacsWiki describing schemes for unit/regression testing in emacs lisp: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/UnitTesting Perhaps we could pick up one of these? I haven't evaluated any of them. In response to Ben Alexander's question, yes, sometimes the screen output is wh

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi, I'd recommend ert.el, it is actively maintained, and I have it on good authority that this the tool of choice for elisp unit testing. http://github.com/ohler/ert/tree/master ,[from ert.el] | ;;; Commentary: | | ;; ERT is a tool for automated testing in Emacs Lisp. Its main | ;; feature

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Russell Adams
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:35:46AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi Org users, > > I need to get control over the time I spent on developing > Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending > more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to > seize the chance to

Re: [Orgmode] Re: how to wrap headings

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
"Rich E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ah, very nice and easy. That was the call I was looking for. > > So now I have toggle-truncate-lines bound to C-x-q, but I cannot use > it in the file I want, which is in Python mode. I get the message "Not > defining or executing kbd macro". > > I have it bo

Re: [Orgmode] Re: how to wrap headings

2008-10-23 Thread Manish
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Rich E wrote: > ah, very nice and easy. That was the call I was looking for. > > So now I have toggle-truncate-lines bound to C-x-q, but I cannot use > it in the file I want, which is in Python mode. I get the message "Not > defining or executing kbd ma

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps the git repository should have a small collection of small org- > mode files that reproduce certain bugs? Ah, stupid me, Worg IS a git repo :-D -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36

[Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Running a minimal emacs should suppress custom config files: > emacs -q -l yourtest.el Added this one to the Clippboard section on new org-tests/index.org in Worg.git. (this section will be temporary...) > Some kind of regression testing framewo

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Ben Alexander
Well, I was just looking at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-fr/UnitTesting Unfortunately for me, I can't tell if Emacs comes with any builtin framework already, so I downloaded one of the many options listed on that page to my local site-lisp directory: http://www.wanglianghome.org/svn/test/te

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Manish
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: [snip] > > If you know of someone who knows how to do automated tests in > elisp, or some technique, package, whatever, please post it to the > list, so we all can take a look at it and comment->decide > something. This is _highly

Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.10

2008-10-23 Thread Manish
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: [snip] > Enhancements to secondary agenda filtering > -- > >This is, I believe, becoming a killer feature. It allows you >to define fewer and more general custom agenda commands, a

Re: [Orgmode] Re: how to wrap headings

2008-10-23 Thread Rich E
ah, very nice and easy. That was the call I was looking for. So now I have toggle-truncate-lines bound to C-x-q, but I cannot use it in the file I want, which is in Python mode. I get the message "Not defining or executing kbd macro". I have it bound like this: (global-set-key (kbd "C-x q") 'to

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Ben, I cc'ed the list. The tests I described in my email to the list are not automated. The reason for that is my lack of (e)lisp knowledge. BUT, they where easy to handle for non programmers. I think the little test will make it to the worg site this week, when all private data is removed.

[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.10

2008-10-23 Thread Bernt Hansen
Ignore this. This was pilot-error. I created a new script ~/bin/emacs that was messing up 'emacs -q -batch ...' Sorry for the noise. -Bernt Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Enjoy! >> >> - Carsten >> >> Changes in Version 6.10 >> =

[Orgmode] Re: How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Bernt Hansen
Ben Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sebastian Rose wrote: >> 5. I also think of little packages for testing parts of org. > > I'm curious if you or someone else has any ideas for writing automated > tests for org-mode. I haven't the foggiest idea how someone would > write a test for the

[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.10

2008-10-23 Thread Bernt Hansen
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Enjoy! > > - Carsten > > Changes in Version 6.10 > === > The makefile doesn't work for me. If I run it (under X in an xterm) it starts about 32 new emacs sessions and fails with the following error: ,[ end of make -j1 output

[Orgmode] Re: How to remove the automatically generated css codes from exported HTML file?

2008-10-23 Thread Bernt Hansen
All of my projects have their own CSS style sheets. I override the style variable in a custom function to export my project. If I'm working on an org file that is part of a project I export by hitting C-s-f12 which saves the current document and then exports it. ,[ part of my .emacs ] | (glo

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Ben Alexander
Sebastian Rose wrote: > 5. I also think of little packages for testing parts of org. I'm curious if you or someone else has any ideas for writing automated tests for org-mode. I haven't the foggiest idea how someone would write a test for the parts of org that control what is displayed on

Re: [Orgmode] Re: How to remove the automatically generated css codes from exported HTML file?

2008-10-23 Thread Larry . Liu
I think template is a great idea, and I think, if we can add separate or unique id to each separate part of the exported html file, then the display and structure of that html file can totally be controlled by the css file, so maybe there are two choice 1. Assign unique id to more elements in the

[Orgmode] Re: How to remove the automatically generated css codes from exported HTML file?

2008-10-23 Thread Leo
On 2008-10-23 10:45 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > If you must, > >(setq org-export-html-style-default "") > > But I would recommend to simply overwrite everything you need with > your own style. > > - Carsten Maybe the export facilities can benefit from using some kind of template engine, al

[Orgmode] [PATCH 3/3] Add clock persistence.

2008-10-23 Thread James TD Smith
Clock-related data are saved when exiting emacs ands restored when emacs is restarted. The data saved include the contents of `org-clock-history', and the running clock, if there is one. To use this, you will need to add (require 'org-clock) (org-clock-persistence-insinuate) to your .emacs and e

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Sebastian Rose wrote: Should we put a page on worg by this name (see subject of this thread)? We could show, how to turn on debugging, write a good bug report, link to good elisp tutorials and describe how to use the elisp debugger in emacs for simple debugging. If no one stops me, I'll do it th

[Orgmode] [PATCH 2/3] Add clock resuming.

2008-10-23 Thread James TD Smith
If the option `org-clock-resume' is t, and the first clock line in an entry is is open, clocking into that task resumes the clock from that time. --- lisp/ChangeLog|8 lisp/org-clock.el | 28 +--- 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff -

[Orgmode] [PATCH 0/3] Split my clock resume/clock persistence patch

2008-10-23 Thread James TD Smith
I've split this patch out into three parts, as requested. James TD Smith (3): Fix some typos and duplication in the ChangeLog Add clock resuming. Add clock persistence. lisp/ChangeLog| 46 - lisp/org-clock.el | 118

[Orgmode] [PATCH 1/3] Fix some typos and duplication in the ChangeLog

2008-10-23 Thread James TD Smith
--- lisp/ChangeLog | 22 +++--- 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-) mode change 100755 => 100644 lisp/ChangeLog diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog old mode 100755 new mode 100644 index 0a65adf..e4ffc88 --- a/lisp/ChangeLog +++ b/lisp/ChangeLog @@ -74,7

[Orgmode] [PATCH 2/3] Add clock resuming.

2008-10-23 Thread James TD Smith
If the option `org-clock-resume' is t, and the first clock line in an entry is is open, clocking into that task resumes the clock from that time. --- lisp/ChangeLog|8 lisp/org-clock.el | 28 +--- 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff -

Re: [Orgmode] How to remove the automatically generated css codes from exported HTML file?

2008-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
If you must, (setq org-export-html-style-default "") But I would recommend to simply overwrite everything you need with your own style. - Carsten On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Larry.Liu wrote: Hi, On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: This thread migh

[Orgmode] Re: After a custom agenda as follows I get a wrongly sorted result

2008-10-23 Thread Rainer Stengele
Hi Carsten, it sorts! Thanks! Its gettin' better all the time ... My colleagues begin to bite their lips when I show them what org-mode is able to do and they "can't" use it because they don't want to use emacs... Rainer Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Rainer, You need to add time-up to the sor

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Should we put a page on worg by this name (see subject of this thread)? We could show, how to turn on debugging, write a good bug report, link to good elisp tutorials and describe how to use the elisp debugger in emacs for simple debugging. If no one stops me, I'll do it these days. As or me, a p

Re: [Orgmode] How to remove the automatically generated css codes from exported HTML file?

2008-10-23 Thread Larry . Liu
Hi, On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > This thread might help. > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/7156 The variable org-export-html-style-extra works fine, customized css contents can be added to the html file, but Org-mode will not remove the automat

Re: [Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Manish
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi Org users, > > I need to get control over the time I spent on developing > Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending > more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to > seize the chance to get the

[Orgmode] How you can help

2008-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Org users, I need to get control over the time I spent on developing Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to seize the chance to get the best possible version into Emacs 23.1. However, this is getting o

[Orgmode] Release 6.10

2008-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
Enjoy! - Carsten Changes in Version 6.10 === Overview - Secondary agenda filtering is becoming a killer feature - Setting tags has now its own binding, `C-c C-q' - Todo state changes can trigger tag changes - C-RET will now always insert a new headline,