Hi all:
My two cents: in my opinion, the semi rolling release is a good idea,
but not to change the whole base system. Recreating thousands of
packages is not a task that can be done in an evening, so I think that
Debian should be used as base system. Maybe define a "fixed,
non-rolling" base
I like the idea of a "semi" rolling release. Software like "Geary" or
"Files" can't be frozen during the whole next cycle, can you imagine not
receiving the "search mail" update until Luna+1?
Right now I don't feel like Elementary is Beta, yes there are bugs that
must be fixed, but it is great to
If we had to change distribution one of the most important to discuss
would be which type of packages should be used (rpm, deb ...) and
whether we want elementary as rolling release or not.
Now my two cents, if I had to choose one package management one option
to keep in mind would be pisi, it
>
> ...but it is a good idea to make elementary packages available on as
> many platforms as possible.
> It gives more publicity and more chances of finding newer developers.
>
+1
People who are not convinced and want more info on the topic can hit me up
for a lecture on "Why it's important to ha
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Daniel Foré wrote:
> While neither us nor Ubuntu seem to want to align with the full GNOME stack
> any longer, we are a little bit closer as far as Gtk/Vala/Mutter/Clutter/etc.
Actually elementary is not patching existing gnome components leading
to unexpected be
I basically wanted to say what Christian said, but I see your point as well.
While neither us nor Ubuntu seem to want to align with the full GNOME stack any
longer, we are a little bit closer as far as Gtk/Vala/Mutter/Clutter/etc.
There does seem to be some concerns about stuff like SystemD, Way
+1
On 9 Jul 2013 18:09, "Conscious User" wrote:
>
> Em Ter, 2013-07-09 às 18:42 +0200, Christian Dywan escreveu:
> > A GNOME user will say exactly the same about Elementary. Ditching the
> > shell, forking the window manager, discarding all apps, adding
> Contractor…
>
> I am a GNOME user, and I
Em Ter, 2013-07-09 às 18:42 +0200, Christian Dywan escreveu:
> A GNOME user will say exactly the same about Elementary. Ditching the
> shell, forking the window manager, discarding all apps, adding Contractor…
I am a GNOME user, and I can assure you that it's not the same thing.
Elementary forks
Am 09.07.2013 11:18, schrieb Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff:
> I share Conscious User's concerns. In fact, bazaar is in exactly the
> same situation now. Canonical has limited resources and they have to
> choose where to allocate them.
>
> Moreover, the status of GNOME stack in Ubuntu repos is already
This is the thread I was referring to where he was discussing bugs and how
XMir is a poor approach for an entire desktop:
https://plus.sandbox.google.com/115606635748721265446/posts/jdbSVidJyWH
My syncing comment was just referring to the fact that as XMir simply
houses an X server and directs its
Yeah, i'm going to bring it up again. Don't kill me.
Why not just use something like LibAppImage that handles all the
dependencies and produces a distro-independent binary. PPA's are powerful
and I understand that, but even with LibAppImage it can take a package from
a PPA download any missing dep
+1 Tricking other distros...great idea! :P
On Jul 9, 2013 3:23 PM, "Craig" wrote:
> +1
> On Jul 9, 2013 12:03 AM, "Conscious User" wrote:
>
>>
>> Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
>> your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
>> related to what I said.
>>
>>
>> Em Seg, 2013-
+1
On Jul 9, 2013 12:03 AM, "Conscious User" wrote:
>
> Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
> your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
> related to what I said.
>
>
> Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu:
> > If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now
On 09-07-13 11:18, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff wrote:
> My idea is to get our packages into all distros we're interested in as
> potential base distros by providing packager's documentation (started at
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PrzhK7j3ljgAeYVgbQtdc7OHdMhjkn5f143XDyUMPDc/edit)
> and orga
I share Conscious User's concerns. In fact, bazaar is in exactly the same
situation now. Canonical has limited resources and they have to choose
where to allocate them.
Moreover, the status of GNOME stack in Ubuntu repos is already daunting.
The indicator API split, the online accounts split, the
Luke Benstead, the info about frame sync issues in XMir is EXACTLY what I
feared. Could you post a link to the original post by KWin developer to the
thread about Mir? It should be right next to this one.
--
Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
OS architect @ elementary
--
Mailing list: https://launchpad.
People can add PPAs to Debian, but unfortunately Launchpad doesn't support
Debian releases as a target[1]. That said, using the Precise target on
Stable etc. should work.
There are other options though, if Elementary considered Fedora as a base
distro (which has an awesome up-to-date GNOME stack),
But I'm talking about moving away from Ubuntu as
a base distro, not moving away from Launchpad.
Don't people add PPAs to Debian already?
Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 22:09 -0700, Manish Sinha escreveu:
> I do get the gist of what Cody is saying.
>
> It's basically that the PPA ecosystem has so much p
I do get the gist of what Cody is saying.
It's basically that the PPA ecosystem has so much potential and use
that any other shortcomings of Ubuntu at the moment is negated just by
the PPA ecosystem which makes delivering software to end users a
breeze.
Personally I would like that elementary is
Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
related to what I said.
Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu:
> If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary
> video driver developers. Those are concrete iss
If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary video
driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any non-Intel GPU
user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver wrote:
> My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are im
My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable and eclipse
any popular sentiment right now.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver wrote:
> PPAs.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Some time ago, I have noticed that an app
PPAs.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had
> some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars
> were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was
> told that my best chance was
Hi all,
Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had
some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars
were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was
told that my best chance was to patch the scrollbars myself
because no one was currently working on them
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