Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2014 13:01, schrieb Jochen Bern: > On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 25.05.2014 01:18, schrieb Jochen Bern: >>> Legal requirements like, for example, these German ones: >>> http://www.recht-im-internet.de/themen/archivierung.htm >>> Note that the legalese addresses us

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-26 Thread Jochen Bern
On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 25.05.2014 01:18, schrieb Jochen Bern: >> Legal requirements like, for example, these German ones: >> http://www.recht-im-internet.de/themen/archivierung.htm >> Note that the legalese addresses users acting in the name of a company,

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-25 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 02:26:37PM +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote: > > > And how can you do it for the entire server? > > Well, as I said, "in postfix". It's your MTA all your users are going > through. How to do it with postfix, I don't know, because I do not run > no postfix. OT for this list, bu

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.05.2014 01:18, schrieb Jochen Bern: > On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 23.05.2014 17:51, schrieb Jochen Bern: >>> So the specific *LEGAL REQUIREMENTS* I gave as an example don't apply to >>> your servers/organization/country/whatever? Good for you. Now how about >>> we wai

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-24 Thread Jochen Bern
On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.05.2014 17:51, schrieb Jochen Bern: >> So the specific *LEGAL REQUIREMENTS* I gave as an example don't apply to >> your servers/organization/country/whatever? Good for you. Now how about >> we wait for Dmitry to tell us whether or not *he* needs

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.05.2014 17:51, schrieb Jochen Bern: > On 23.05.2014 15:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 23.05.2014 14:29, schrieb Jochen Bern: >>> On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: the user *always must* use the one and only SMTP server responsible for his domain, especially in times of

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Jochen Bern
On 23.05.2014 15:18, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.05.2014 14:29, schrieb Jochen Bern: >> On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> the user *always must* use the one and only SMTP server >>> responsible for his domain, especially in times of SPF, >>> DKIM and DMARC and spoofing protections f

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.05.2014 14:29, schrieb Jochen Bern: > On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: >> the user *always must* use the one and only SMTP server >> responsible for his domain, especially in times of SPF, >> DKIM and DMARC and spoofing protections for incoming mail > > And who ever said that u

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Jochen Bern
On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Reindl Harald wrote: > the user *always must* use the one and only SMTP server > responsible for his domain, especially in times of SPF, > DKIM and DMARC and spoofing protections for incoming mail And who ever said that users cannot go and use a different domain *if* using

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 May 2014, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: Yes, it is a solution to this problem. But for a single user. Well, no. Every user can add a BCC in his client. Maybe you use a central client configuration setup. I don't know your situation. And

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.05.2014 13:25, schrieb Jochen Bern: > On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: >> Yes, it is a solution to this problem. But for a single user. And how >> can you do it for the entire server? > > If I may answer your question with a question: How well does "*our* > entire (outgoin

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-23 Thread Jochen Bern
On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: > Yes, it is a solution to this problem. But for a single user. And how > can you do it for the entire server? If I may answer your question with a question: How well does "*our* entire (outgoing-)mailserver" translate to "for all e-mails our *user

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-22 Thread Stephan Bosch
On 5/22/2014 8:45 AM, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: > Hi! > > My mail server works in tandem: Dovecot (IMAP) + Postfix. > How can I configure in Gmail: Outgoing email copied to the Sent folder > using postfix without mail client? This question is for the mailing > list for Postfix? > Mail client itself

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-22 Thread Dmitry Podkovyrkin
Yes, it is a solution to this problem. But for a single user. And how can you do it for the entire server? 22.05.2014 13:18, Steffen Kaiser пишет: On Thu, 22 May 2014, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: My mail server works in tandem: Dovecot (IMAP) + Postfix. How can I configure in Gmail: Outgoing e

Re: [Dovecot] Copies of outgoing emails in the Sent folder

2014-05-22 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 May 2014, Dmitry Podkovyrkin wrote: My mail server works in tandem: Dovecot (IMAP) + Postfix. How can I configure in Gmail: Outgoing email copied to the Sent folder using postfix without mail client? This question is for the mailing list