Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Gedalya
This entire sub-thread is of no relation to dovecot, is of no interest to the public, has no value of any kind, and is highly irritating. It would be very kind if you all to do this in private. From now on and into the future. Please.

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Andreas Kasenides skrev den 2015-04-03 15:53: Please share. I know its easy to do, but share anyway! require ["imap4flags"]; # rule:[h.rei...@thelounge.net] if header :contains "From" "h.rei...@thelounge.net" { addflag "\\Seen"; } this don

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Andreas Kasenides skrev den 2015-04-03 15:53: Please share. I know its easy to do, but share anyway! require ["imap4flags"]; # rule:[h.rei...@thelounge.net] if header :contains "From" "h.rei...@thelounge.net" { addflag "\\Seen"; } this dont break threads add this as the very first ru

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:53:28 +0300, Andreas Kasenides stated: >On 03/04/15 16:09, Jerry wrote: >> On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:42:42 -0400, Charles Marcus stated: >> >>> People, PLEASE do not engage Reindl on the list, it always results in >>> this kind of garbage that the adults on the list could do wi

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2015 um 15:53 schrieb Andreas Kasenides: On 03/04/15 16:09, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:42:42 -0400, Charles Marcus stated: People, PLEASE do not engage Reindl on the list, it always results in this kind of garbage that the adults on the list could do without. If you feel c

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Andreas Kasenides
On 03/04/15 16:09, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:42:42 -0400, Charles Marcus stated: People, PLEASE do not engage Reindl on the list, it always results in this kind of garbage that the adults on the list could do without. If you feel compelled to 'call him out', then by all means do so,

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:42:42 -0400, Charles Marcus stated: >People, PLEASE do not engage Reindl on the list, it always results in >this kind of garbage that the adults on the list could do without. > >If you feel compelled to 'call him out', then by all means do so, but do >it PRIVATELY. It is no

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Charles Marcus
People, PLEASE do not engage Reindl on the list, it always results in this kind of garbage that the adults on the list could do without. If you feel compelled to 'call him out', then by all means do so, but do it PRIVATELY. Thanks. On 4/2/2015 11:28 PM, Nick Edwards wrote: > you wouldnt know, y

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.04.2015 um 05:28 schrieb Nick Edwards: you wouldnt know, your not a developer, shit processor maybe, but not a developer you are just an idiot and nothing else http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/users/189665 https://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg9

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Nick Edwards
you wouldnt know, your not a developer, shit processor maybe, but not a developer On 4/3/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 02.04.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: >> Am 2015-04-02 um 17:49 schrieb Reindl Harald: >>> Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: On 4/1/15, Reindl Hara

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Nick Edwards
On 4/2/15, Edwardo Garcia wrote: > On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: >>> On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are t

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Nick Edwards
On 4/3/15, Jogi Hofmüller wrote: > > > Am 2015-04-02 um 18:24 schrieb Reindl Harald: >> Am 02.04.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: >>> Am 2015-04-02 um 17:49 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: > On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 01.04.2015 u

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
Am 2015-04-02 um 18:24 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 02.04.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: >> Am 2015-04-02 um 17:49 schrieb Reindl Harald: >>> Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: >> O

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.04.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: Am 2015-04-02 um 17:49 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.20

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Jogi Hofmüller
Am 2015-04-02 um 17:49 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: >> On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovit

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.04.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Edwardo Garcia: On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-02 Thread Edwardo Garcia
On 4/1/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: >> On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for *long-term* benefits o

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 14:42 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > > On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > >>> IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for > >>>

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for *long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually c

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > > IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for > > *long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually > > commercial success is driven and defined fr

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for *long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually commercial success is driven and defined from marketing to sales[1] sown to the techies which are forced into

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-04-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Don, 2015-03-26 at 17:01 +0200, Andreas Kasenides wrote: > On 26/03/15 13:05, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 16:08 +0200, Andreas Kasenides wrote: > >> I am usually emotionally (at least) against of open-source projects > >> loosing their independence to large corporations. P

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-26 Thread Andreas Kasenides
On 26/03/15 13:05, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 16:08 +0200, Andreas Kasenides wrote: I am usually emotionally (at least) against of open-source projects loosing their independence to large corporations. Possibly due to bad OX-AG is a "large corporation"? Did I miss something?

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-26 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 16:08 +0200, Andreas Kasenides wrote: > I am usually emotionally (at least) against of open-source projects > loosing their independence to large corporations. Possibly due to bad OX-AG is a "large corporation"? Did I miss something? Kind regards, Bernd -- "I disl

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Asai
Agreed. I think this is a positive move for Dovecot and Timo, Mikko, et al. I think only good will come of this for open source communications. On 3/25/15 2:46 PM, Andreas Kasenides wrote: I hate to have started this, especially the "sister" thread that has dissented into a flame war of what

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Andreas Kasenides
I hate to have started this, especially the "sister" thread that has dissented into a flame war of what is OSS. Let me say that I believe there is nothing wrong trying to make money on ones efforts. Actually it is a must. How can anyone continue to put efforts into a project when there is no r

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Daniel Miller
On 3/19/2015 3:26 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: Hi all, Today I can finally announce that Dovecot Oy company has merged with Open-Xchange AG. This helps us to get more Dovecot developers, support people and so on. Most importantly, eventually it should allow me to get back to doing what I like the

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Brad Smith
On 03/25/15 15:34, Benny Pedersen wrote: Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 20:20: only paid here by compileing time, still have dovecot v1 working, so open source it not complete free, as long it compiles fine i am happy Not making any sense. punktum ? if i really need to install precompiled

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 20:34 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 20:20: only paid here by compileing time, still have dovecot v1 working, so open source it not complete free, as long it compiles fine i am happy Not making any sense. punktum ? "only paid here by compileing

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 20:20: only paid here by compileing time, still have dovecot v1 working, so open source it not complete free, as long it compiles fine i am happy Not making any sense. punktum ? if i really need to install precompiled problems i could aswell install windows

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Brad Smith
On 03/25/15 13:03, Benny Pedersen wrote: Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 16:58: On 03/25/15 08:46, Peter Chiochetti wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? When was the last time you paid

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Reindl Harald skrev den 2015-03-25 18:08: with your argumentation making a shit would also not be completly free because you need to pinch ass bakes. and you write this on public walls? DON'T QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT BOY, YOU HAVE MISSED YOUR

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Reindl Harald skrev den 2015-03-25 18:08: with your argumentation making a shit would also not be completly free because you need to pinch ass bakes. and you write this on public walls ?

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 18:03 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 16:58: On 03/25/15 08:46, Peter Chiochetti wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? When was the last time yo

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 16:58 schrieb Brad Smith: On 03/25/15 08:46, Peter Chiochetti wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? When was the last time you paid for Dovecot? The base product is o

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Brad Smith skrev den 2015-03-25 16:58: On 03/25/15 08:46, Peter Chiochetti wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? When was the last time you paid for Dovecot? The base product is open sour

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Brad Smith
On 03/25/15 08:46, Peter Chiochetti wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? When was the last time you paid for Dovecot? The base product is open source and free for anyone to use. -- T

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Peter Chiochetti
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Nick Edwards: So there *is* a chance it will be commercialised Hasn't it been commercial for a long time? -- Peter

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 23 Mar 2015, at 19:41, Patrick Coffin wrote: >> >> >> To Timo and the Dovecot guys - congratulations! I'm sure this merger with >> OpenXchange is going to provide you with a lot of resources and >> opportunities. >> >> As a longtime user of dovecot, I do hav

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-24 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015, at 04:34 AM, Philipp wrote: > Show me OSS for cyrus, courier, .. on that level of "enterprisey". Hey, FastMail has been contributing pretty advanced stuff to Cyrus for years, and it's all open. Back on topic - contrats Timo. Hope the merger works well for you. It's good

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-24 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 23 Mar 2015, at 19:41, Patrick Coffin wrote: > > > To Timo and the Dovecot guys - congratulations! I'm sure this merger with > OpenXchange is going to provide you with a lot of resources and opportunities. > > As a longtime user of dovecot, I do have a few concerns. I wonder if you can >

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-23 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/24/15, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > I think everyone shares your concerns. But there are no rules that the > outcome of this merger must get something bad, so let's see what > happens. I hope that it's true what Timo said and that dovecot can > evolve and get even better as it is today. Good luck gu

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-23 Thread Patrick Coffin
To Timo and the Dovecot guys - congratulations! I'm sure this merger with OpenXchange is going to provide you with a lot of resources and opportunities. As a longtime user of dovecot, I do have a few concerns. I wonder if you can answer some questions for me. You say that OpenXchange really

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-23 Thread Philipp
Am 23.03.2015 15:08 schrieb Andreas Kasenides: I am usually emotionally (at least) against of open-source projects loosing their independence to large corporations. Possibly due to bad experiences in the past when OSS were driven from Open to Obscure in the process of trying to make money out of

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-23 Thread Adrian Zaugg
I think everyone shares your concerns. But there are no rules that the outcome of this merger must get something bad, so let's see what happens. I hope that it's true what Timo said and that dovecot can evolve and get even better as it is today. Good luck guys! Regards, Adrian. On 23.03.15 15:08,

Re: Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-23 Thread Andreas Kasenides
I find it extremely interesting that no one has commented on the merger of Dovecot Oy and Open-Xchange AG as announced by Timo on the 19th. Is this something that was known a long time ago and I missed? OK checked the on-line archive of the mailing list, no comments there - its not my email set

Dovecot Oy merger with Open-Xchange AG

2015-03-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
Hi all, Today I can finally announce that Dovecot Oy company has merged with Open-Xchange AG. This helps us to get more Dovecot developers, support people and so on. Most importantly, eventually it should allow me to get back to doing what I like the most: Designing new and interesting stuff fo