On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 14:42 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > > On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch: > >>> IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for > >>> *long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually > >>> commercial success is driven and defined from marketing to sales[1] sown > >>> to the techies which are forced into "features" and "delivery dates" to > >>> achieve some "company defined goal" - and that is usually not "bug > >>> free", "safe", or the like. Free software/OSS just happens that *at > >>> least* half of it should come from the "working level" and that is - at > >>> least - much more - ahemm - "inconvenient" for sales people) > > > > FWIW the context were large "old-school" corps (like Novell or Oracle) > > taking over free software companies. > > > >> that is simple not true - if it would be true linux distributions would > > > > Define "true Linux distribution". > > who the fuck was talking abiut "true Linux distribution"?
Ooops, sry, misread that ("," could help ....). Actually, the whole area/discussion IMHO too versatile to invalidate (or validate) anything with just one example - not everything is white or black ... One had to look at each situation and the circumstances/conditions/... (and there is no excuse for companies to fix a bugs paid by their customers and "forget" to send them upstream - if only to get a confirmation on the quality). > >> not include half baken and aplha quality sofwtare again and again in > >> stable releases because "the market out there" > > > > That's everywhere in the commercial world the problem with "delivery vs > > quality/known problems" and someone's decision to ship or not to ship - > > based in whatever feels appropriate. > > and in the opensource world too - so shwat Usually a maintainer has no direct pressure on "shipping"/releasing. And sometimes one actually ships known bugs if only to motivate the ones who should fix the bugs and one doesn't want to become hostage of some lazy contributors;-) [...] Kind regards, Bernd -- "I dislike type abstraction if it has no real reason. And saving on typing is not a good reason - if your typing speed is the main issue when you're coding, you're doing something seriously wrong." - Linus Torvalds