On 23/10/2020 13:22, @lbutlr wrote:
On 22 Oct 2020, at 19:09, Stephan Bosch wrote:
You need to include the extprograms plugin:
I have, and vnf.dovecot.pipe doesn't give the error.
sieve_plugins = sieve_imapsieve sieve_extprograms
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am not using filter now though, so I haven'
On 25/10/2020 16:48, Marc Roos wrote:
Say someone has setup spf for his domain and sends an email to a user
that has in roundcube enabled the sieve forward. If the message is
forwarded without altering the message headers, this could result in a
message being blocked or not relayed, because se
Ditto this. I pay for a VPS because I don't want my home facing the internet. If the VPS gets hacked, that is as far as they get. You could do a mail server on a $5 Digital Ocean or Linode VPS if you don't run SpamAssassin. Rather than have your email server on a 10 year old laptop, you let someo
First of all, I want to learn how to do it, just for fun.
If you want to do this yourself for fun, here is what I believe a good way
to do it:
1. install and configure Dovecot with one account for each user; see for
example https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/quick_configuratio
The reason there's no pretty complete how-to is because what you're doing seems
completely insane to the vast majority of people who'd look at your problem and
select your way of approaching solving it.
Yeah, you can also host your own website off of a DSL line, using a rasp-pi
connected via a
Am 26.10.20 um 21:55 schrieb Robert Schetterer:
see https://blog.sys4.de/abholdienst-fur-mail-de.html
OP considers his/her ISPs spam/antivirus filter adequat. Doing such on
his/her own burdens the setup with quite some maintainance. Perhaps
though, getmail trumps fetchmail, I don't now.
--
2. install and configure OfflineIMAP to synchronize the IMAP folders between your ISP IMAP server and your Dovecot server; see for example
http://www.offlineimap.org/doc/quick_start.html
OfflineIMAP is not the way to go. Many ISPs have very low size limits for the mailbox sizes. The one I am
Am 25.10.20 um 21:01 schrieb Marc Roos:
Maybe get something like Zimbra, such solutions also have support that
you can buy when you need it or don't have time (I guess).
-Original Message-
From: R. Diez [mailto:rdiezmail-2...@yahoo.de]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 6:57 PM
To: dove
no spam/virus filtering ? Virtual suicide these days :P
On Monday, 26/10/2020 at 16:13 R. Diez wrote:
> Start of a HOWTO:
>
> 1) Install dovecot, create virtual accounts for all of your users
> 2) Install fetchmail, make it pull the ISPs IMAP and deliver locally
> 3) Install postfix as a smar
Start of a HOWTO:
1) Install dovecot, create virtual accounts for all of your users
2) Install fetchmail, make it pull the ISPs IMAP and deliver locally
3) Install postfix as a smart relay and deliver locally to locals
Feel free to fill in the details ;)
And I thought you guys had nothing e
Marc Roos skrev den 2020-10-26 15:04:
and forward- and reverse DNS records for your mailserver match.
do even googles ips confirm to this standard?
i have never seen spf helo pass from google envelope senders
hint to owner of this maillist here
Dave McGuire:
I'm sorry buddy, your credibility hit rock bottom in your first post,
and your subsequent posts aren't helping.
Have a nice day. *plonk*
Thank you for your kind words. Have a nice day, too.
First of all, I want to learn how to do it, just for fun.
Okay, that was not what you initially said. Some comments below,
nonetheless.
I will not recommend Google. Ever heard of data protection and data
confidentiality?
Your data is stored confidentially by Google, obviously. O
I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new
name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps). It's cheap, very
reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an
autoresponder. It's unrealistic to think that it's possible to beat a
service that costs
Hello,
Can someone guide me how to test the mail software? I can send emails but
can't receive. I have Dovecot - telnet to 143 port says Dovecot OK. Same
with port 25. I get back mail delivery problem. 550. No mail shows in
Roundcube. Log files maillog shows nothing, seems empty. It's clean instal
I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new
name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps). It's cheap, very
reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an
autoresponder. It's unrealistic to think that it's possible to beat a
service that costs
Hi,
I am evaluating mail server solutions for a small business. The trouble
is, I am only a part-time admin and a newbie to mail servers.
I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new
name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps). It's cheap, very
reliab
On 10/26/20 7:53 PM, Jochen Bern wrote:
On 26.10.20 17:45, Mihai Badici wrote:
So I guess it is not trivial to sort again all the mails and
deliver each one in a mailbox after you mixed all together in a single
catchall mailbox. Could be done for sure but it is some work to do...
Determining th
On 26.10.20 17:45, Mihai Badici wrote:
> So I guess it is not trivial to sort again all the mails and
> deliver each one in a mailbox after you mixed all together in a single
> catchall mailbox. Could be done for sure but it is some work to do...
Determining the intended recipient of a specific *
On 25/10/2020 17:19, jayare~d...@videocoding.org wrote:
> I've got a basic dovecot master-master replication setup between two
> servers (imap1 and imap2). Actions such as deleting messages or moving
> them between folders are replicated correctly and quickly.
>
> However, when new mail is delivere
Hi
Any idea ? or solutions ?
> Hello
> I have a problem with Invalid data
> System debian10 dovecot-2.2.36.4
>
> # 2.2.36.4 (baf9232c1): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> # Pigeonhole version 0.4.24.rc1 (debaa297)
> # OS: Linux 4.19.0-12-amd64 x86_64 Debian 10
>
>
> Oct 23 15:57:52 dovecot6 dovecot:
> l
> Btw., why is an open port 25 evil if the MTA is configured correctly?
> Can you elaborate, please?
He does not know, that is why he assumes this. He first needs to aquire
some basic principles and learn, as he wrote.
I remember back in the dialup era there was a small company in Timisoara
who tried to sell this kind of solution. (They started to sell servers
after a while so I guess they didn't have much success selling their
workaround) So I guess it is not trivial to sort again all the mails and
deliver
Am 26.10.20 um 11:24 schrieb R. Diez:
Hello R, I only wrote about the incoming side - of course, you also
want to
send mail to remote users, and that includes users with an address of
…@myisp.com. They will go to the ISP and be fetched to local from there.
That is not what I had in mind. My
[...]
> I could not find anything there related to multidrop or "catch all" mailboxes.
[...]
> Nothing like that there either.
[...]
> This is a huge document with little introduction. It seems to be
> mostly about fighting spam. I did not find anything like the setup I
> described.
looks like
I hate to have to use this cliché "if you believe that I have a great one owner
bridge for sale". There is no positively secure store for any purpose that has
even a remote possibility of being connected to the internet. As can be seen
to secure data = no connection to internet, save money kee
There are plenty of guides available. I don't know your mother tongue,
but seeing your last name, I assume you may be speaking German. Take a
look at these German language guides:
I do speak German, thanks for the links.
https://www.it-management-kirchberger.at/manuals-tutorials/server-centos
On 10/26/20 11:24 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
Your data is stored confidentially by Google, obviously. Otherwise
nobody would use their services.
My keyboard is now COMPLETELY saturated with coffee. Some hit my
display this time, too.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensin
> That's nonsense. I will give one example: Airbus, the European
aerospace corporation, uses Google Workspace.
What do they store there? That is the question, maybe some irrelevant
data, I doubt if they store CAD drawings online or data that is
protected by GDPR legislation.
And even when,
On 10/26/20 11:07 AM, Marc Roos wrote:
> It's hard to imagine anyone being that dumb, but then this society
has been surprising me a lot in recent years.
If I tell some woman in the store that she is about to buy an energy
drink promoted by/having a picture of a convicted rapist. They look a
On 10/26/20 11:09 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent
new name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps). It's cheap,
very reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an
autoresponder. It's unrealistic to think tha
I would not advice any company that is continuously being fined for breaking
the law.
This is not only an overstatement, it is completely irrelevant. Given the OP
problem
statement (small business, part-time admin, newbie to mail
servers), I do not think there is a better solution
A smal
> It's hard to imagine anyone being that dumb, but then this society
has been surprising me a lot in recent years.
If I tell some woman in the store that she is about to buy an energy
drink promoted by/having a picture of a convicted rapist. They look at
me weird and the most stupid respons
> Yes, you all want me to open ports. I'm sorry guys, but I won't
budge:
> 1) Opening a port means reconfiguring the firewall. You may find it
funny, but some non-profits have no firewall, just a standard ADSL
router. The ones that the telecom company provides often has no IP
filtering abil
On 10/26/20 10:26 AM, Gregory Heytings wrote:
I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent new
name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps). It's cheap, very
reliable, and has all features you can dream of, including an
autoresponder. It's unrealistic to think tha
Besides, the way you suggest means opening a SMTP port to the outside
world. A security risk and more work at the firewall etc.
You can just allow some ip addresses of your provider to connect, not?
Nothing outside world.
Yes, you all want me to open ports. I'm sorry guys, but I won't budg
Your approach is ok but is more complicated. That's why I suggested this
setup, which is simplest but indeed need a little help from your
provider ( for no matter which provider, in fact).
On 10/26/20 4:16 PM, R. Diez wrote:
Why don't you configure all stuff internally and ask your provider t
> I too would strongly advise you to use Google Workspace (the recent
new name for G Suite, previously known as Google Apps).
> It's cheap, very reliable, and has all features you can dream of,
including an autoresponder.
> It's unrealistic to think that it's possible to beat a service that
> 26. 10. 2020 v 15:12, R. Diez :
>
> Thanks for the hint. I initially discarded Mailcow because of this:
>
> "mailcow: dockerized comes with multiple containers"
>
> The installation instructions mention that Docker Compose is required. Not
> long ago I learnt enough to launch one Docker conta
On 10/26/20 4:16 PM, R. Diez wrote:
Why don't you configure all stuff internally and ask your provider to
relay
the e-mails from and to you via "smart relay"? You will communicate
only via smtp and only with your provider,
> [...]
When you are a small business or a volunteer-run club or c
> When you are a small business or a volunteer-run club or charity, you
don't ask your provider.
> You have no leverage. You may not even be able to change provider so
easily.
Just ask, I will bet they do it. They do not need to configure that much
even I think. By default smtp servers ar
I know. I am not stating this.
-Original Message-
From: lists [mailto:li...@lazygranch.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 3:17 PM
To: dovecot
Subject: Re: SV: SV: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the
ISP mail server
As I previously stated the reverse pointer does not hav
I assure you each IP address has only one reverse pointer at Digital Ocean. I
know this because I set up the reverse pointer myself.
Original Message
From: m.r...@f1-outsourcing.eu
Sent: October 26, 2020 4:41 AM
To: li...@lazygranch.com; s...@ketola.io
Cc: build+dove...@de-
> Besides, the way you suggest means opening a SMTP port to the outside
world. A security risk and more work at the firewall etc.
You can just allow some ip addresses of your provider to connect, not?
Nothing outside world.
As I previously stated the reverse pointer does not have to match your domain.
Suppose you ran a hosting company called host.com. Suppose you had clients
client1.com and client2.com. This requires virtual mailboxes. That is one
domain, host.com provides email services for client1.com and client
Why don't you configure all stuff internally and ask your provider to relay
the e-mails from and to you via "smart relay"? You will communicate only
via smtp and only with your provider,
> [...]
When you are a small business or a volunteer-run club or charity, you don't ask your provider. Y
Have a look at Mailcow too, it comes with almost everything.
I’ve been running it for a year now, after many years of usin
a self-assembled stack, and it’s a bliss.
Thanks for the hint. I initially discarded Mailcow because of this:
"mailcow: dockerized comes with multiple containers"
The i
> and forward- and reverse DNS records for your mailserver match.
do even googles ips confirm to this standard?
> email does not get silently dropped or moved to spam when working with
gmail.
Gmail is dropping email on purpose?
If you are using a "dot host" in your TLD you most certainly will be considered spam. Now I understand why you have Gmail problems. I have a number of TLDs I reject because they are known to be used by spammers. I never get listed as spam by Gmail.
you should ask your ip provider to set a proper reverse lookup for you.
If I would get a lot of spam from upcloud.host ips, I would also
consider blocking upcloud.host reverse dns lookups. If it is your ip, it
is an easy request to have it changed.
-Original Message-
From: Sami Ket
There was just a recent discussion on the spamassassin mailing list
where also amazon was mentioned, and from what I can recollect and my
experience, outgoing amazon mail has a bad reputation. So if you want
host your vm somewhere, choose something that is not cheap and not big.
Spammers more
26. 10. 2020 v 12:15, R. Diez :
>
> I would be happy to take a pre-packaged mail server solution like iRedMail
> which includes RoundCube or whatever.
Have a look at Mailcow too, it comes with almost everything. I’ve been running
it for a year now, after many years of using a self-assembled sta
What you are looking for would be a very advanced setup
> [...]
I don't think so. But we'll see!
I would be happy to take a pre-packaged mail server solution like iRedMail
which includes RoundCube or whatever.
I just need a "easy", practical guide to reconfigure it to 1) download e-mails f
You look spammy if you don't have SPF or DKIM, and hopefully both.
> [...]
I don't want to worry about spam, SPF, DNS or the lot. That is what the ISP is there for. Most of them actually do a pretty good job for very little
money in my experience. If not, you can always switch to another ISP
That way your users can create their vacancies with the ISP portal,
But then internal e-mails need to go out to the ISP,
don't they? Because, if internal e-mails get delivered locally, the
vacation autoresponses on the ISP will not trigger, will they?
Hello R, I only wrote about the inco
> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.36, lists wrote:
>
> Actually the reverse pointer doesn't have to match. In fact this is
> impossible if you are setting up virtual accounts on one server for different
> domains. You just need to have a reverse pointer.
>
> Most email servers look to seen if the re
Actually the reverse pointer doesn't have to match. In fact this is impossible
if you are setting up virtual accounts on one server for different domains. You
just need to have a reverse pointer.
Most email servers look to seen if the reverse pointer has a "dyn" in it and
blocks those.
I have used this person's blog for a few operating systems.
https://blog.andreev.it/?p=1975
Poke around for the correct OS. I only set up dovecot and postfix. Keep it
simple. You then need opendkim. I think opendkim checks the incoming mail.
There is another procedure to sign your mail.
When y
> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.08, lists wrote:
>
> I have no problems with Gmail from Digital Ocean. But I have both spf, DKIM,
> DMARC and a reverse pointer. You need to not look spammy.
>
> One advantage to using a VPS is your IP is unique. That is you don't share it
> with a spammer. Not so
I have no problems with Gmail from Digital Ocean. But I have both spf, DKIM,
DMARC and a reverse pointer. You need to not look spammy.
One advantage to using a VPS is your IP is unique. That is you don't share it
with a spammer. Not so with hosted services.
Original Message
> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.02, Arjen de Korte wrote:
>
> Citeren Sebastian Nielsen :
>
>> Because when I email to friends that are using gmail, my mail ends up in
>> spam unless my friends put me in whitelist. Seems to vary however, and
>> seems to get better with time.
>
> In order to preven
Citeren Sebastian Nielsen :
Because when I email to friends that are using gmail, my mail ends up in
spam unless my friends put me in whitelist. Seems to vary however, and
seems to get better with time.
In order to prevent ending up in spam in GMail, it is necessary to
have working DKIM and
Because when I email to friends that are using gmail, my mail ends up in
spam unless my friends put me in whitelist. Seems to vary however, and
seems to get better with time.
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Marc
Roos
Skickat: den 26 oktober 2020 09:07
Till
Hello R.,
Sunday, October 25, 2020, 11:12:48 PM, you wrote:
RD> I was hoping that there would be a complete mail server setup
RD> guide somewhere for this kind of setup. But I guess I'll have to piece all
these
RD> information snippets together.
There are plenty of guides available. I don't kno
> and also the problem is that gmail imposes heavy spam filters and
"reputation blocks"
> meaning smaller providers with low email volumes, are put in the spam
folder, even if
> they never send spam, just because their email volume is so low (ergo,
they must
> prove they don't spam before g
Amen to that!
-Original Message-
From: lists [mailto:li...@lazygranch.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 7:09 AM
To: Dovecot Mailing List
Subject: Re: SV: Looking for a guide to collect all e-mail from the ISP
mail server
Good luck with all that coding. I have four years now of runni
Why don't you configure all stuff internally and ask your provider to
relay the e-mails from and to you via "smart relay"? You will
communicate only via smtp and only with your provider, and you can use a
nice open-source bundle ( dovecot is mandatory because you wrote on that
list :) ) in
At 26 October, 2020 Sebastian Nielsen wrote:
>
> >> why not just point them at a hosting service like google apps, and let
> google keep things up to date?
Oh they most certainly do :)
> Costs money, and also the problem is that gmail imposes heavy spam filters
> and "reputation blocks" meaning
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