[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Petr Špaček
On 10. 08. 24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: On 8/9/2024 5:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 9, 2024, at 12:16, Michael StJohns wrote: Two comments - one major and one very minor. Major: I'm sorry for the late comment, but I didn't realize you were planning on starting to provide prospective

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Mike, On 8/10/24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: Paul - this is related directly to the newly specified inclusion of the public key material in this draft (sect 3.2 last para): A KeyDigest element can contain both a Digest and a publickeyinfo named pattern. If the Digest element wou

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Petr Špaček
On 09. 08. 24 20:22, Paul Hoffman wrote: To everyone who reviewed draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis in WG Last Call: please carefully review the diff. Based on a very good IETF Last Call review from Petr Špaček, we had to make a significant technical change to the XML format, and we want to be sure

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Vint, On 8/15/24 00:06, Vint Joseph wrote: The core idea/synopsis We plan to implement a system using elliptic curve cryptography. A preshared key, referred to as the public key G^S, is distributed from the dns server to the client. How? Best, Peter The server retains the private key S

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread Vladimír Čunát
Hello. I think dprive fits the encryption topic better than dnsop?  Anyway, some quick thoughts below. On 15/08/2024 00.06, Vint Joseph wrote: using UDP and only one or two packets I suspect that larger answers will be... a complication. You could rely on UDP fragmentation, but in that case

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread Joe Abley
 Hi there! On 15 Aug 2024, at 00:17, Vint Joseph wrote: > The core idea/synopsis > We plan to implement a system using elliptic curve cryptography. A preshared > key, referred to as the public key G^S, is distributed from the dns server to > the client. "Preshared" is easy to type but more d

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread Martine Sophie Lenders
Hi Vint, are you aware about [1]? With OSCORE [2] and EDHOC [3] it pretty much aligns with your idea, as far as I can see, and would also provide you with a key exchange mechanism for free. Best Martine [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap/ [2] https://www.rfc-e

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Also see DJB's https://dnscurve.org/ CurveCP came before QUIC: https://curvecp.org/ Witold had prepared a draft some years ago of a method: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krecicki-dprive-dnsenc/ There's https://dnscrypt.info/protocol/ that secures client->resolver traffic. There are man

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Michael StJohns
Hi Peter - continues below. On 8/15/2024 5:41 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: Hi Mike, On 8/10/24 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote: Paul - this is related directly to the newly specified inclusion of the public key material in this draft (sect 3.2 last para):     A KeyDigest element can contain bot

[DNSOP] Re: Introducing Relative Label for DNS

2024-08-15 Thread Ben van Hartingsveldt
Dear all, Thanks for the responses I received. I got some useful feedback that helped me improve the drafts. As Peter Thomassen already mentioned earlier, I was talking about a label type mainly for confined systems only. Except for some small exceptions, a record will never leave the DNS se

[DNSOP] Re: Light weight encrypted DNS proposal

2024-08-15 Thread libor.peltan
Hi, it was not declared if this is intended for client-to-resolver DNS or resolver-to-authoritative DNS. If the latter, it looks like just another method of DoE, and like any of those, can be solvable (only?) by DELEG. I'd like to see the direct comparison against DoQ. I understand that this

[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Request: Review changes - draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-03 → 04.

2024-08-15 Thread Michael StJohns
Sorry - 1-3 new issues and commentary on the previous issue. Expanding: Please Clarify:  The document does not state if this set of TAs is additive to a relying party's existing TA set or replaces them. Please Clarify:   What happens if you provide a TA with a "validUntil" in the f