Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-belyavskiy-rfc5933-bis

2020-07-07 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 5:17 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jul 6, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > To not adopt this means, the implementers could easily pick their own > > This seems unlikely. If they step on unallocated code points, few > implementers will go along with that becaus

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-belyavskiy-rfc5933-bis

2020-07-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jul 7, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > Peace, > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 5:17 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jul 6, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: >> > To not adopt this means, the implementers could easily pick their own >> >> This seems unlikely. If they step on unalloc

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Havard Eidnes
>> this is the draft where that issue would be decided, so it's >> good we're talking about it. ... > > by the way, this is what kato and i, and later jabley, were > trying to get at with > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize/ > > but it was like moving mud with a toothpick

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Joe Abley
On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:57, Havard Eidnes wrote: >>> this is the draft where that issue would be decided, so it's >>> good we're talking about it. ... >> >> by the way, this is what kato and i, and later jabley, were >> trying to get at with >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-r

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Havard Eidnes
>>> by the way, this is what kato and i, and later jabley, were >>> trying to get at with >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize/ >>> >>> but it was like moving mud with a toothpick, so after eleven >>> years (2003 to 2014) we gave it up. there are probably some >>> good

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Masataka Ohta
Paul Hoffman wrote: RFCs 1035 and 2181 give mixed messages about incomplete RRsets. They don't. You should misunderstand 2181. Putting glue is not additional section processing. Masataka Ohta ___

Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Paul Vixie
Joe Abley wrote on 2020-07-07 10:01: On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:57, Havard Eidnes wrote: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize/ but it was like moving mud with a toothpick, so after eleven years (2003 to 2014) we gave it up. there are probably some good ideas in there, eve

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread John Levine
In article <45b4c5a5-7bca-3515-c5a5-3c470be15...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> you write: >You should misunderstand 2181. Putting glue is not additional >section processing. Uh, what? Searching for either NS or MX records causes "additional section processing" in which address records associ

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Jul 2020, at 11:23, John Levine wrote: > > In article <45b4c5a5-7bca-3515-c5a5-3c470be15...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> > you write: >> You should misunderstand 2181. Putting glue is not additional >> section processing. > > Uh, what? > > Searching for either NS or MX records cause