[DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Matthijs Mekking
All, While working on the next version of the ANAME draft, one additional question came up: When querying for A or , we want to include the ANAME in the response as a signal to anticipate aliasing. Should we include the ANAME record in the answer section or the additional section? The main

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations-04.txt

2019-06-11 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Considerations for Large Authoritative DNS Servers Operators Authors : Giovane C. M. Moura

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Bob Harold
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:32 AM Matthijs Mekking wrote: > All, > > > While working on the next version of the ANAME draft, one additional > question came up: When querying for A or , we want to include the > ANAME in the response as a signal to anticipate aliasing. Should we > include the AN

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations-04.txt

2019-06-11 Thread Bob Harold
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:46 AM wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the > IETF. > > Title : Considerations for Large Authoritative DNS > Servers Operat

[DNSOP] updated draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations-04

2019-06-11 Thread Giovane Moura
Folks, So we've presented the -03 version of our draft at IETF104 in Prague. Thanks everybody for their feedback, sure help us to improve the document. We worked on a new version of the draft, which yon can find at: * https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations-04.

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-moura-dnsop-authoritative-recommendations-04.txt

2019-06-11 Thread Giovane Moura
> I don't understand how changing to a shorter TTL (from 1 day to 5 > minutes) reduced the RTT.  Seems backwards. Good catch. You're right: it went from 5 minutes to 1 day. Will fix it. /giovane ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.or

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Michael J. Sheldon
On 6/11/19 5:53 AM, Bob Harold wrote: > > If the camel was not already overloaded, then a cautious approach might > be to put it in the additional section, *unless* there was a capability > signal in the request that indicated that the requester would understand > ANAME, or at least not have a pro

Re: [DNSOP] [homenet] Montreal homenet activities -- front-end-naming

2019-06-11 Thread Michael Richardson
(context: The HOMENET WG will not meet in Montreal at IETF105) The HOMENET front-end-naming design team will spend some unstructure time together. This relates to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation/ The exact time is to be determined as the unstruct

[DNSOP] RFC 8624 on Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC

2019-06-11 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8624 Title: Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC Author: P. Wouters, O. Sury Status: Standards T

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:31:55AM +0200, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > The main argument for putting it in the answer section is that putting > it in the additional section implies a lower trust level, and that the > record is optional and can be removed when minimizing responses. I'm inclined to fav

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Anthony Eden
I'm a fan of Michael's suggestion of using EDNS to signal that the authoritative should return ALIAS vs synthesizing. Any reason this won't work? -Anthony On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:05 PM Evan Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:31:55AM +0200, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > > The main argument f

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Joe Abley
On Jun 11, 2019, at 20:04, Evan Hunt wrote: > MHO, the ANAME is the real answer we're sending; the A and records > are just friendly hand-holding for legacy servers. It doesn't make sense > to me to demote the real answer into the additional section, any more than > it would have to move DN

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Joe Abley
On Jun 11, 2019, at 20:11, Anthony Eden wrote: > I'm a fan of Michael's suggestion of using EDNS to signal that the > authoritative should return ALIAS vs synthesizing. Any reason this won't work? It won't work unless it's implemented. On a grand scale, then, it won't work unless it's implement

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Brian Dickson
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:35 PM Joe Abley wrote: > On Jun 11, 2019, at 20:04, Evan Hunt wrote: > > > MHO, the ANAME is the real answer we're sending; the A and records > > are just friendly hand-holding for legacy servers. It doesn't make sense > > to me to demote the real answer into the

Re: [DNSOP] ANAME in answer or additional section [issue #62]

2019-06-11 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 08:11:51PM -0400, Anthony Eden wrote: > I'm a fan of Michael's suggestion of using EDNS to signal that the > authoritative should return ALIAS vs synthesizing. Any reason this won't > work? Not that I can think of, but it adds significant implementation complexity in order