Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?

2016-09-26 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hello, On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:22, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:13:50PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote a message of 68 lines which said: This issue was spotted by Peter van Dijk. It is about draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05, recently approved by IESG. The problem i

Re: [DNSOP] ENT and NXDOMAIN: the case of RFC 4035

2016-09-26 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Stephane, On 25-09-16 10:14, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > [If you don't enjoy byzantine discussions, with a lot of > chapter-and-verse mentions of RFCs, please skip the thread.] > > I've been directed recently to RFC 4035 and there is a question I would > like to ask about its handling of ENTs. >

Re: [DNSOP] ENT and NXDOMAIN: the case of RFC 4035

2016-09-26 Thread Ray Bellis
On 26/09/2016 08:49, Matthijs Mekking wrote: >> My gut feeling is that RFC 4035 is wrong. But I prefer to ask first: >> how do you read it? > > I think you are right that 4035 is wrong. I think it meant to say > something like: > > Name Error: The node does not exist in the zone either > ex

Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?

2016-09-26 Thread Ólafur Guðmundsson
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Peter van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:22, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:13:50PM +0200, >> Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote >> a message of 68 lines which said: >> >> This issue was spotted by Peter van Dijk. It is about >

Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?

2016-09-26 Thread Matt Larson
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:13:50PM +0200, > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote > a message of 68 lines which said: > >> This issue was spotted by Peter van Dijk. It is about >> draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05, recently approved by IESG. Th

Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?

2016-09-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 26 Sep 2016, at 0:33, Peter van Dijk wrote: 2308 does not “redefine” QNAME. It clarifies that the usage in 1034 4.3.2 is the definition we use in RFCs. 1035 4.1(.2) does not conflict with this; the QNAME there is just the initial QNAME. This seems like a very limited view of RFC 1034. RFC

Re: [DNSOP] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-maintain-ds-03: (with DISCUSS)

2016-09-26 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Hello, Will there be an update to this draft before the telechat or is there a running version with updates from the open discuss points that should be referenced? Thank you, Kathleen On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot

Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?

2016-09-26 Thread Robert Edmonds
Paul Hoffman wrote: > On 26 Sep 2016, at 0:33, Peter van Dijk wrote: > > > 2308 does not “redefine” QNAME. It clarifies that the usage in 1034 > > 4.3.2 is the definition we use in RFCs. 1035 4.1(.2) does not conflict > > with this; the QNAME there is just the initial QNAME. > > This seems like a

[DNSOP] Comment on section 2 of draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05.txt

2016-09-26 Thread Edward Lewis
#2. Rule # # When an iterative caching DNS resolver receives a response NXDOMAIN, # it SHOULD store it in its cache and all names and RRsets at or below # that node SHOULD then be considered to be unreachable. Subsequent # queries for such names SHOULD elicit an NXDOMAIN response. # # B

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt

2016-09-26 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 04:57:05AM -0700, > internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote > a message of 48 lines which said: > >> Title : The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain >> Authors : Warren Kumari >>

[DNSOP] review of draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-05

2016-09-26 Thread Matthew Pounsett
My first impression of this document is that it is still in need of some extreme editing – mostly for grammar and syntax, but also for clarity and readability. I've included many of the early problems I found in a list of nits at the end of this email, but at two and three errors per paragraph (an

Re: [DNSOP] Comment on section 2 of draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05.txt

2016-09-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <29b4a430-80c7-44c8-a6fa-54a1560d3...@icann.org>, Edward Lewis writ es: > #2. Rule > # > # When an iterative caching DNS resolver receives a response NXDOMAIN, > # it SHOULD store it in its cache and all names and RRsets at or below > # that node SHOULD then be considered to be u

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05.txt

2016-09-26 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:48 PM, hellekin wrote: > On 09/12/2016 11:57 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF. >> >> Title