Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Ted Lemon
Patrik, I think that it's fairly clear that the authors were assuming that .home would be documented elsewhere when they wrote that text, so the problem is simply that they never added a normative reference to the document describing what .home does, and because of that nobody noticed that it was b

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Patrik Fältström
Noted! And I saw more email messages on this topic after I wrote this email of mine. Happy to see not only I "miss" things when being AD :-) All the best! Patrik On 24 Apr 2016, at 15:22, Ted Lemon wrote: > Patrik, I think that it's fairly clear that the authors were assuming that > .home

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 23 Apr 2016, at 19:58, Ted Lemon wrote: Bottom line: this is not actually the intended way things should work for naming in homenets, and a lot of people missed it. Sigh. ...for well over a year. You see that exact phrase in the draft over many revisions. This is a sign that maybe the 6

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 24 Apr 2016, at 16:20, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On 23 Apr 2016, at 19:58, Ted Lemon wrote: > >> Bottom line: this is not actually the intended way things should work for >> naming in homenets, and a lot of people missed it. Sigh. > > ...for well over a year. You see that exact phrase in the draf

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Ted Lemon
Paul. I think actually that we need to start maintaining a list of things that ought to be explicitly looked for when reviewing documents for publication, and this sort of thing would be one such. This is not to say that it's not a hard problem, though--such a list could easily become unwieldy.

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: > Happy to see not only I "miss" things when being AD :-) > I think this is one of the hazards of being an AD--you just can't catch everything, and when you miss something, in retrospect it often seems so obvious. This is definitely not

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Hi, (no hats) I had honestly expected the work on the homenet naming architecture to include a discussion of constraints on the syntax and other characteristics of the names to be used. The default set for the homenet namespace in RFC 7788 strikes me as a risky recommendation from a purely op

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Using ".home" for homenets is a bad idea, and would have been a bad idea > even if there was a special use registry entry for it. > Yup, no argument here. That's why I used ".homenet" in the homenet naming architecture... :) _

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption for draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse

2016-04-24 Thread fujiwara
> From: Bob Harold >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse/ > I support adoption. Will read and review. Thanks. > Section 7.3 concerns me. If the range is expanded enough to be useful, > would it then allow zone enumeration? It is true. However, the zone o

Re: [DNSOP] [rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org: RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol]

2016-04-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/24/16 3:20 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Hi, > > (no hats) > > I had honestly expected the work on the homenet naming architecture to > include a discussion of constraints on the syntax and other > characteristics of the names to be used. Personally I see that as part of the design anti-patter