Re: [DNSOP] Zone apex and delegation point

2015-04-06 Thread Casey Deccio
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: > Delegation Point: the collection of records at a name which owns an NS set > that are visible in the parent zone. > Zone apex: the collection of records at a name which owns an NS set that > are visible in the child zone. > > "Visible" is a no

Re: [DNSOP] Zone apex and delegation point

2015-04-06 Thread Casey Deccio
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:23:52PM -0400, Casey Deccio wrote: > > I've re-read the definitions of zone apex and delegation point in RFC > 4033 > > (in conjunction with review of draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-02) and it > > seems to me that

Re: [DNSOP] Zone apex and delegation point

2015-04-06 Thread Edward Lewis
On 4/6/15, 12:46, "Casey Deccio" wrote: >> Isn't "owns an NS set" inferred by "zone"? > > "The NS RR states that the named host should be expected to have a zone > starting at owner name of the specified class" (RFC 1034). IMHO, it is more precise to talk about domain names that own or do not o

Re: [DNSOP] Zone apex and delegation point

2015-04-06 Thread Casey Deccio
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: > So, it's important to come to a common set of terminology which reflects > how we understand the DNS to be built today, less important to rectify this > with the past documents. > ...except we're referencing those documents heavily to build t