Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-10 Thread Tony Finch
Wessels, Duane wrote: > > all .home > US27.40% 14.27% > CN14.86% 6.47% > BR6.23% 9.69% <- > KR5.35% > RU3.61% 6.60% <- > TW3.04% 2.34% > NL3.03% 5.45% <- > GB2.50% 7.41% <- > DE2.10% > IT1.67% So .home queries are disproportion

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > Hi Duane, > > On 6 Nov 2015, at 14:32, Wessels, Duane wrote: > >>> On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Tony Finch wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone done a survey of where the leaked .home queries come from? >> >> In the spirit of Measurement-Driven Protoc

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-09 Thread Tony Finch
Wessels, Duane wrote: > On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > > > > Has anyone done a survey of where the leaked .home queries come from? > > In the spirit of Measurement-Driven Protocol Engineering here are some > recent data points from root servers: Wow, cool, and totally not what I

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-06 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > > Has anyone done a survey of where the leaked .home queries come from? In the spirit of Measurement-Driven Protocol Engineering here are some recent data points from root servers: Over the past 7 days Verisign observed an average of 200,000,0

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-05 Thread Ray Bellis
On 05/11/2015 10:11, George Michaelson wrote: > So can somebody explain to me what we are meant to do with a possible > emerging homenet desire for .home? > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home/ This particular proposal was being discussed long before any of the .o

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-05 Thread Tony Finch
George Michaelson wrote: > So can somebody explain to me what we are meant to do with a possible > emerging homenet desire for .home? > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home/ (I can't see any discussion of this draft on the homenet list so I don't know if this questi

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-04 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:16:19 AM Tim WIcinski wrote: > I believe the IESG guidance given to us is that no Special Use Domain > Names will be addressed until the 6761 "scaling issue" has a direction. tellingly, the technologies that will surround "homenet" will also be relevant to SOHO a

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-04 Thread Tim WIcinski
The authors of this draft was alerted when -00 was initially submitted that this approval needed to pass through DNSOP. On 11/5/15 10:19 AM, George Michaelson wrote: Which demands pretty direct pushback on the AD and WG chairs, because otherwise, we're just building a huge queue of pent-up

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-04 Thread George Michaelson
Which demands pretty direct pushback on the AD and WG chairs, because otherwise, we're just building a huge queue of pent-up demand for names. Names we might decide we don't think should happen, or happen a different way. If we allow WG adoption in another WG of something which heads into an activ

Re: [DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-04 Thread Tim WIcinski
I believe the IESG guidance given to us is that no Special Use Domain Names will be addressed until the 6761 "scaling issue" has a direction. On 11/5/15 10:11 AM, George Michaelson wrote: So can somebody explain to me what we are meant to do with a possible emerging homenet desire for .home?

[DNSOP] we already have a new version of this problem

2015-11-04 Thread George Michaelson
So can somebody explain to me what we are meant to do with a possible emerging homenet desire for .home? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home/ because I believe this isn't just the tail of odd requests from the tor people for various hash based names.. its another WG i