Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread David Conrad
Hi, On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:00 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: >> I came to this group because of concerns that Warren raised, and because the >> draft sits before me. I have reviewed what discussion I could find in the >> logs relating to Warren's draft, which amounts to either (a) this is ICANN's >> p

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 2 Aug 2022, at 2:15 am, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) > wrote: > > > On 02.08.22 10:35, Joe Abley wrote: >> >>> Had I wanted to do so, I would not have approached dnsop in the first place. >> Had you wanted to which? I'm confused. > > I came to this group because of conc

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
On 02.08.22 10:35, Joe Abley wrote: Had I wanted to do so, I would not have approached dnsop in the first place. Had you wanted to which? I'm confused. I came to this group because of concerns that Warren raised, and because the draft sits before me.  I have reviewed what discussion I coul

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Joe Abley
On Aug 2, 2022, at 10:26, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) wrote: > On 02.08.22 09:56, Joe Abley wrote: >> >> If the position of the ISE is to ignore the prior discussion and publish one >> set of opinions regardless then perhaps it would be more straightforward >> just to say so.

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
Aaaagain On 02.08.22 09:56, Joe Abley wrote: If the position of the ISE is to ignore the prior discussion and publish one set of opinions regardless then perhaps it would be more straightforward just to say so. Had I wanted to do so, I would not have approached dnsop in the first place.

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-02 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Eliot, On Aug 2, 2022, at 07:59, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) wrote: > But what is not reasonable to expect researchers to attempt to enter the > ICANN arena in order to facilitate a the safe use of a new naming system that > doesn't require use of the DNS. This argument (a

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld

2022-08-01 Thread Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
Paul: It is not the ISE that is ignoring RFC 6761, but this group. 6761 envisioned this precise case.  For whatever reason, that document didn't take the next step and actually reserve a TLD. Sometimes it is reasonable to do things incrementally.  But what is not reasonable to expect research