Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-11-23 Thread Donald Eastlake
I like the Extended Error Code using EDNS idea. This was effectively what was done with TSIG and TKEY that have an expanded Error field inside the RR. However: >> I don't see any reason for the complex two-dimensional table to new error codes. Given that 16 bits is available for "INFO-CODE" (whic

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-30 Thread Petr Špaček
On 24. 10. 18 8:41, Tim Wicinski wrote: > We've been talking with the authors of Extended Error and now that > they've gotten around to updating the document, and the chairs > feel it is ready for Working Group Last Call.  > > We're going to kick this WGLC off this week and run it through IETF103.

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Vixie
Ray Bellis wrote: FWIW, I really wish in retrospect that EDNS(0) had defined the extra rcode bits as being for a _sub-type_ of the primary RCODE, i.e. SERVFAIL is always "2" in those four bits in the main header, with the extended field in the EDNS response allowing for more detail (c.f.

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-30 Thread Ray Bellis
On 30/10/2018 16:57, Wes Hardaker wrote: > Well, the plan is to not allow it per the original EDNS0 spec. We > should have said that in the section and said "going once" or > something. IE, the plan is to disallow sending it back unless the > source indicates support. > > [In theory, it s

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-30 Thread Joe Abley
On 30 Oct 2018, at 12:57, Wes Hardaker wrote: >> With IANA registry requests, I may be wrong here, but I thought we had >> some (boilerplate?) language about how IANA is asked to operate the >> registry: what criteria judge acceptance. Is it like the OID and >> basically open (hair oil) slather,

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-30 Thread Wes Hardaker
George Michaelson writes: > How can it go WGLC with section 6 an open question? Well, the plan is to not allow it per the original EDNS0 spec. We should have said that in the section and said "going once" or something. IE, the plan is to disallow sending it back unless the source indicates

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-25 Thread Shane Kerr
Dear DNS colleagues, I definitely agree with George that last call seems a bit premature. As he points out, section 6 is a large open question. We need to either change EDNS behavior to allow an unsolicited EDNS option in a response or change this draft to include an appropriate EDNS option wh

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-24 Thread George Michaelson
How can it go WGLC with section 6 an open question? in every other respect I like the document. Bad Hair and all. I would like to understand if we could work out a way to do traceroute in the codes, with some defined code to ask the DNS resolver to perform a TTL drop on a counter and mark itself

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error

2018-10-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi We've been talking with the authors of Extended Error and now that they've gotten around to updating the document, and the chairs feel it is ready for Working Group Last Call. We're going to kick this WGLC off this week and run it through IETF103. This will give folks time during the meeting t