Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread Mark Andrews
QNAME minimisation failures happen for 2 reasons. 1. Bad implementations of DNS that don’t return ENTs in a zone. 2. Failure to add delegating NS records to the parent zone resulting in no ENT being emitted when both the child and parent server are served by the same server. If we had kept

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread Robert Edmonds
Paul Vixie wrote: > Joao Damas wrote: > > Camels are indeed great animals and they can be loaded until > > eventually one more insignificant straw breaks their back. I guess > > that is were Bert thinks the DNS is at now and I don’t completely > > disagree > > i was pretty horrified even before EC

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread Paul Vixie
Joao Damas wrote: Camels are indeed great animals and they can be loaded until eventually one more insignificant straw breaks their back. I guess that is were Bert thinks the DNS is at now and I don’t completely disagree i was pretty horrified even before ECS. dnssec sentinels feels like fri

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread P Vix
When Ed have up defending the qtuple, complexity moved in. On March 20, 2018 4:04:31 PM UTC, Joao Damas wrote: >Camels are indeed great animals and they can be loaded until eventually >one more insignificant straw breaks their back. I guess that is were >Bert thinks the DNS is at now and I don’t

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread Joao Damas
Camels are indeed great animals and they can be loaded until eventually one more insignificant straw breaks their back. I guess that is were Bert thinks the DNS is at now and I don’t completely disagree Joao > On 20 Mar 2018, at 15:12, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 07

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 07:29:50AM +, tjw ietf wrote a message of 94 lines which said: > At the end of Tuesday's session we're having Bert Hubert from Power DNS > give a talk on what he views "The Camel". Unlike the popular saying

[DNSOP] DNSOP Presentation "The Camel"

2018-03-20 Thread tjw ietf
All At the end of Tuesday's session we're having Bert Hubert from Power DNS give a talk on what he views "The Camel". He sent us a short abstract: "In past years, DNS has been enhanced with DNSSEC, QName Minimization, EDNS Client Subnet and in-band key provisioning through magic record types.