Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2020-01-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi, As I already indicated several times, I think this is needed and agree with this document. In fact, I've included a reference to this document in RFC8683. Just a minor point regarding the abstract. I think it should be a single paragraph, and moving most of the text to the intro (I've been

[DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2020-01-19 Thread Warren Kumari
Hi there all, Back in 2018, I've mentioned that I've agreed to AD sponsor draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa/ ), and asked for review / feedback. When RFC7050 was written, the name 'ipv4only.arpa' was not requested to be

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
I'm with you, ideally they should use DHCPv6 ... so tell them :-) Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: en nombre de Philip Homburg Fecha: lunes, 9 de julio de 2018, 18:26 Para: CC: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Asunto: Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-09 Thread Philip Homburg
> I think deprecating > RFC7050 will be a bad idea, there are too many implementations that > really need that, while updating APIs/libraries to make sure they > comply with this seems easier. > > For example, we could have a DHCPv6 option, but in the cellular > world DHCPv6 is not used ... and ev

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-07 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
e original- De: DNSOP en nombre de Philip Homburg Fecha: viernes, 6 de julio de 2018, 11:00 Para: Asunto: Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa In your letter dated Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:50:44 +1000 you wrote: >All it does is ensure that the DNS queries get

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-07 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
non-cellular, Android is not using it either. Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: DNSOP en nombre de Philip Homburg Fecha: jueves, 5 de julio de 2018, 12:06 Para: Asunto: Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa >draft-cheshire-s

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-07 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
proceed the normal way. Regards, Jordi De: DNSOP en nombre de Warren Kumari Fecha: miércoles, 4 de julio de 2018, 22:27 Para: dnsop Asunto: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa Dear DNSOP, Stuart Cheshire & David Schinazi have asked me to AD sponsor

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-06 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 6 Jul 2018, at 6:59 pm, Philip Homburg wrote: > > In your letter dated Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:50:44 +1000 you wrote: >> All it does is ensure that the DNS queries get to the DNS64 server. > > The way RFC 7050 works that you send queries to your local recursive > resolver. The problem there is

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-06 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:50:44 +1000 you wrote: >All it does is ensure that the DNS queries get to the DNS64 server. The way RFC 7050 works that you send queries to your local recursive resolver. The problem there is that if the user manually configured a public recursive resolver

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-06 Thread Mark Andrews
All it does is ensure that the DNS queries get to the DNS64 server. -- Mark Andrews On 6 Jul 2018, at 18:33, Philip Homburg wrote: >> Most of the special >> handling could be avoided if IANA was instructed to run the servers >> for ipv4only.arpa on dedicated addresses. Hosts routes could then

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-06 Thread Philip Homburg
> Most of the special > handling could be avoided if IANA was instructed to run the servers > for ipv4only.arpa on dedicated addresses. Hosts routes could then > be installed for those address that redirect traffic for ipv4only.arpa > to the ISPs DNS64/ipv4only.arpa server. > > Perhaps 2 address b

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-05 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 6 Jul 2018, at 10:28 am, Ted Lemon wrote: > > If special handling is required for ipv4only.arpa, isn't it also required for > home.arpa? I tested this a bit and it doesn't appear to be necessary. I > suppose a stub resolver could in principle walk down from the root and notice > the

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-05 Thread Ted Lemon
If special handling is required for ipv4only.arpa, isn't it also required for home.arpa? I tested this a bit and it doesn't appear to be necessary. I suppose a stub resolver could in principle walk down from the root and notice the discrepancy in the NS records in the delegation, but in practic

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-05 Thread Mark Andrews
Most of the special handling could be avoided if IANA was instructed to run the servers for ipv4only.arpa on dedicated addresses. Hosts routes could then be installed for those address that redirect traffic for ipv4only.arpa to the ISP’s DNS64/ipv4only.arpa server. Perhaps 2 address blocks cou

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-05 Thread Philip Homburg
>draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa document Section 7.1: "Name resolution APIs and libraries MUST recognize 'ipv4only.arpa' as "special and MUST give it special treatment. It seems to me that it is going way to far to require all DNS software to implement support for a hack that abuses DNS f

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
This paragraph needs to be re-written to ensure that the two reverse zones (170.0.0.192.in-addr.arpa and 171.0.0.192.in-addr.arpa) are created and are insecurely delegated from the parent zone. Otherwise there is no point in having recursive servers answer for them. As a practical matter

Re: [DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
This paragraph is factually incorrect. Possibly this problem could have been avoided if we had forced all NAT64 gateways to use the same Well-Known Prefix for IPv6 address synthesis [RFC6052]. If the decision had been made to use a single fixed Well-Known Prefix, then there would have

[DNSOP] AD sponsoring draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa

2018-07-04 Thread Warren Kumari
Dear DNSOP, Stuart Cheshire & David Schinazi have asked me to AD sponsor the draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa document ​[0]​ .. >From the document: "The specification for how a client discovers its network's NAT64 prefix [RFC7050] defines the special name 'ipv4only.arpa' for this purpose, bu