Re: [DNSOP] The Larger Discussion on Differences in Response Drafts

2016-08-17 Thread abby pan
Status Quo is good for ipv4 to ipv6 migration. Totally agree with william on PUSH/PULL. 1. Hotest internet service's RDATA always exists in recursive dns cache, PUSH is not speed up much except hit-miss. ( recursive -> authority ) 2. clients known what they want, PULL & prefething is Ockham's R

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-liu-dnsop-dns-cache

2016-03-31 Thread abby pan
joel jaeggli 于2016年4月1日周五 上午2:35写道: > > > > > > 2) baidu dns hijack(2010): > > > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/baidu-dns-records-hijacked-by-iranian-cyber-army/ > > > > This paper says it was purely social engineering on the registrar. No > > change in the DNS would help. > >

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-liu-dnsop-dns-cache

2016-03-31 Thread abby pan
Stephane Bortzmeyer 于2016年3月29日周二 下午9:48写道: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 05:38:01AM +, > abby pan wrote > a message of 246 lines which said: > > > 1) baofeng recursive ddos attack(2009): > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/165319/article.html > > A more technica

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-liu-dnsop-dns-cache

2016-03-27 Thread abby pan
Thanks a lot for Stephane's comments, we will give more explanations in next version, :-) Some backgroud information as follows: Stephane Bortzmeyer 于2016年3月25日周五 下午10:44写道: > > I've read it, noticed that it is not just a documentation of local > practices but it wants to be published as BCP, an

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt

2016-03-14 Thread abby pan
Mark Andrews 于2016年3月14日周一 下午12:01写道: > > > another choice : Authority Server return NODATA/NXDOMAIN as nxdomain > cut, > > but no change on DNS cache. Some impact on NSEC/NSEC3 records. > > > > - no names under foo.example => NXDOMAIN at foo.example > > If you want to signal NOERROR + bottom

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt

2016-03-13 Thread abby pan
Ted Lemon 于2016年3月11日周五 下午12:26写道: > > I think this document could be made a lot simpler if it simply said what > it says in the abstract, without placing new requirements on DNS caches. > Right now it says DNS caches SHOULD take an NXDOMAIN on a particular > domain as applying to all names under

Re: [DNSOP] Updated cheese-shop.

2016-02-24 Thread abby pan
root zone size is much smaller than TLD, and RR has long ttl. NSEC is satisfied. Warren Kumari 于2016年2月25日周四 下午12:58写道: > Dear DNSOP, > > We have recently updated "Believing NSEC records in the DNS root" ( > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-dnsop-cheese-shop-01). > > This incorporates s