Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Anthony Eden
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:41 PM Peter van Dijk wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 19:38 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > > > The chairs have been doing prep work for the upcoming IETF meeting; one > > issue that we are working on is reaching out to authors whose working group > > documents h

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Shumon Huque
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 8:49 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > Someone mentioned Mark's glue-is-not-optional draft. The chairs really > liked this document, > and wanted to keep it alive. We've reached out to > mark several times with no response, so we requested the XML from the > secretariat, > dumpe

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial-00.txt

2021-06-18 Thread Hugo Salgado
Hi Stephane. Thanks a lot for your implementations! I have a modified dig version with support for rrserial in: https://gitlab.isc.org/huguei/bind9/-/tree/rrserial ; <<>> DiG 9.17.14 <<>> @200.1.122.30 dateserial.example.com txt +rrserial +nsid ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
This is all great feedback everyone, please don't stop. I wanted to say we'll talk to Warren on the 5011-considerations document, but Warren is a co-author, so we'll need to start over. Someone mentioned Mark's glue-is-not-optional draft. The chairs really liked this document, and wanted to keep

[DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5011-security-considerations-13, was Re: [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 18 Jun 2021, Paul Hoffman wrote: I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations I keep meaning to republish it with Olafur's suggested reduced title (since it's really describing just one problem). But it's unlikely to get published as an RFC due to lack of consensus after a long

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Daniel Migault
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 6:33 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > > > Peter van Dijk writes: > > > >> I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations > > > > I keep meaning to republish it with Olafur's suggested reduced title > > (since it's really

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Paul Hoffman
draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-information (in the expired queue) can probably be dropped. It was intended for some of the use cases of the ADD WG, but that WG is now no longer considering the document for its work. --Paul Hoffman smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > Peter van Dijk writes: > >> I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations > > I keep meaning to republish it with Olafur's suggested reduced title > (since it's really describing just one problem). But it's unlikely to > get published

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOPFwd: New Version Notification for draft-sahib-domain-verification-techniques-02.txt

2021-06-18 Thread Wes Hardaker
Shivan Kaul Sahib writes: >    Many services on the Internet need to verify ownership or control of >    domains in the Domain Name System (DNS) [RFC1034] [RFC1035].  This >    verification often relies on adding or editing DNS records within the >    domain.  This document surveys various techni

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Wes Hardaker
Peter van Dijk writes: > I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations I keep meaning to republish it with Olafur's suggested reduced title (since it's really describing just one problem). But it's unlikely to get published as an RFC due to lack of consensus after a long drawn out convers

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Joe Abley
On Jun 18, 2021, at 16:36, Paul Wouters wrote: > Sure, but if we were to deprecate 5011, what would we expect to happen > when we want to do another rollover ? To be more clear, I was *not* suggesting that 5011 should be deprecated. Joe ___ DNSOP ma

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 18 Jun 2021, Joe Abley wrote: On Jun 18, 2021, at 13:41, Peter van Dijk wrote: I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations with a short document deprecating 5011 in its entirety. Eh? 5011 is baked into various software. Why would replace 5011 ? Did I miss something? The

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Joe Abley
On 18 Jun 2021, at 14:45, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Jun 18, 2021, at 13:41, Peter van Dijk wrote: > >> I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations with a short document >> deprecating 5011 in its entirety. > > Eh? 5011 is baked into various software. Why would replace 5011 ? > > Did

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Jun 18, 2021, at 13:41, Peter van Dijk wrote: > > I propose replacing rfc5011-security-considerations with a short document > deprecating 5011 in its entirety. Eh? 5011 is baked into various software. Why would replace 5011 ? Did I miss something? Paul

[DNSOP] Fwd: Third (and final) NomCom 2021-2022 Call for Volunteers

2021-06-18 Thread Suzanne Woolf
If you’ve got opinions about how the IETF is run, and want to influence its priorities and leaders, please consider adding your name to the pool of potential Nomcom members. The deadline to volunteer for the 2021-2022 Nomcom is next Wednesday. See Gabriel’s email below for details, but for th

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 19:38 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > The chairs have been doing prep work for the upcoming IETF meeting; one issue > that we are working on is reaching out to authors whose working group > documents have recently expired. While doing this, Benno did some datatracker

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial-00.txt

2021-06-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:03:22AM -0400, Hugo Salgado wrote a message of 55 lines which said: > In the case of NXDOMAIN, the reason for not adding RRSERIAL is > because the response already has the SOA in the AUTHORITY, which > would make it redundant. OK, I see. Here are two implementations