[DNSOP] OARC 34 Workshop, February 4th & 5th, Deadline for Contributions extended to 11/01/2021 23:59

2021-01-04 Thread Willem Toorop
OARC 34 will be an online meeting on February 4th & 5th starting at 16:00 UTC. The Programme Committee is seeking contributions from the community. The deadline for submissions has been extended to the 11th of January All DNS-related subjects and suggestions for discussion topics are welcome. Bas

[DNSOP] Code Point Assignment Suggestion - was Re: [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Without going into the original discussion (whether or not to reserve some sub-range of code points for some purpose or another), I'd like to suggest a method to use that conserves values better. This would apply to any very limited resource (such as code points) within a linear range. It would bas

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jan 4, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > > > >> On 4 Jan 2021, at 16:18, Paul Wouters wrote: >> >> You want to see a Status column at the IANA registry for marking >> something "NOT RECOMMENDED" / "DEPRECATED" etc ? > > Yes! If the WG adopts the draft, it sounds like the WG might want

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Reid
> On 4 Jan 2021, at 16:18, Paul Wouters wrote: > > You want to see a Status column at the IANA registry for marking > something "NOT RECOMMENDED" / "DEPRECATED" etc ? Yes! ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 04/01/2021 16:05, Paul Wouters wrote: While asking is fair, you would also have to define what you do based on the outcome of that ask. You left that out, I don't think I did omit that. My stated reason to ask was to help me figure out what I think about the draft named in the subje

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Jim Reid wrote: Maybe there needs to be another I-D to document the process for adding and deprecating DNSSEC type codes? You mean something in addition to RFC 8624 ? You want to see a Status column at the IANA registry for marking something "NOT RECOMMENDED" / "DEPRECATE

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Stephen Farrell wrote: WRT GOST, we're not really talking about an algorithm but rather a national crypto standards scheme that selects sets of algorithms. For such things, whether from Russia or the US or anywhere, I think it's quite fair to ask "how has version N dep

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Reid
> On 4 Jan 2021, at 15:27, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > On 04/01/2021 14:23, Paul Wouters wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Stephen Farrell wrote: >>> WRT GOST, we're not really talking about an algorithm but >>> rather a national crypto standards scheme that selects sets >>> of algorithms. For such

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Paul Vixie
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:21:10AM -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:31 AM Vittorio Bertola 40open-xchange@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > ... > > This seems to conflate standardization with code point assignment. > Standards are recommendations and our recommendation is that

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 04/01/2021 14:23, Paul Wouters wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Stephen Farrell wrote: WRT GOST, we're not really talking about an algorithm but rather a national crypto standards scheme that selects sets of algorithms. For such things, whether from Russia or the US or anywhere, I think it

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021, Stephen Farrell wrote: WRT GOST, we're not really talking about an algorithm but rather a national crypto standards scheme that selects sets of algorithms. For such things, whether from Russia or the US or anywhere, I think it's quite fair to ask "how has version N deployment

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 04/01/2021 11:31, Vittorio Bertola wrote: We could ask the proponents of new algorithms for information on current or expected usage. WRT GOST, we're not really talking about an algorithm but rather a national crypto standards scheme that selects sets of algorithms. For such things,

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:31 AM Vittorio Bertola wrote: > > > > Il 01/01/2021 19:42 Stephen Farrell ha > scritto: > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > On 01/01/2021 17:58, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > > The WG has already adopted the revised GOST document as a WG item; > > > what you are proposing (if the curren

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hoffman-dnssec-iana-cons

2021-01-04 Thread Vittorio Bertola
> Il 01/01/2021 19:42 Stephen Farrell ha scritto: > > > Hiya, > > On 01/01/2021 17:58, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > The WG has already adopted the revised GOST document as a WG item; > > what you are proposing (if the current use is negligible) would be in > > the opposite direction. > I wasn't