Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points

2020-04-15 Thread John R Levine
The plan in this draft is that NS2 would eventually replace NS records. if so there's a much larger set of changes we'd have to consider. for one thing NS2 should be slabbed (one record containing a compound rdata set); for another it would have to incorporate what DS does now (also as a slab).

Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points

2020-04-15 Thread Paul Vixie
On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 15:16:20 UTC John Levine wrote: > In article <060513e7-742d-6de9-cf16-c367fbb13...@redbarn.org> you write: > >... > > > >so instead of example.com DS, it should have been example._dnssec.com DS. > > I take your point but I have a question and a half. > > The plan in th

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-andrews-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-04-15 Thread Paul Vixie
Paul Hoffman wrote on 2020-04-15 09:51: On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: Since this is a one line RFC change of an erroneous omission of text , could it be done as an errata instead? No. It is not an error in the spec that someone noticed 30 years later: it is an operatio

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-andrews-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-04-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > Since this is a one line RFC change of an erroneous omission of text , could > it be done as an errata instead? No. It is not an error in the spec that someone noticed 30 years later: it is an operational observation followed by implement

Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points

2020-04-15 Thread John Levine
In article <060513e7-742d-6de9-cf16-c367fbb13...@redbarn.org> you write: >today it was proposed that NS2 be added as a new record-set type that >could exist in either the parent or the child, similar to NS, and >reminding several of us about the DS debacle. ... >so instead of example.com DS, it

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-andrews-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-04-15 Thread Paul Wouters
Since this is a one line RFC change of an erroneous omission of text , could it be done as an errata instead? How widespread is this broken behaviour ? Paul > > On Apr 15, 2020, at 03:13, Mark Andrews wrote: > > This is a long standing issue. While rare it needs to be addressed by all >

[DNSOP] Fwd: [EXT] New Version Notification for draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones-01.txt

2020-04-15 Thread Willem Toorop
Dear all, This is the new catalog zones draft as presented yesterday at the DNSOP WG Interim meeting. The idea of catalog zones is to establish automatic zone provisioning along existing primary/secondary relationships. This is an earlier idea which was previously worked on by ISC authors. The ed

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-fujiwara-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2020-04-15 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 14 Apr 2020, at 17:47, Tim Wicinski wrote: This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-fujiwara-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation/ Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable

Re: [DNSOP] data at delegation points

2020-04-15 Thread Shane Kerr
DNS friends, On 14/04/2020 17.43, Paul Vixie wrote: today it was proposed that NS2 be added as a new record-set type that could exist in either the parent or the child, similar to NS, and reminding several of us about the DS debacle. DS should never have been placed at the delegation point, a

Re: [DNSOP] On Powerbind

2020-04-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:24:20PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote a message of 108 lines which said: > > I'm still not able to understand this.  Suppose nic.footld puts a > > statement for humans on their website that says ".footld promises > > to be delegation-only". > > First, this approach does

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-andrews-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-04-15 Thread Mark Andrews
This is a long standing issue. While rare it needs to be addressed by all vendors. BIND sets TC=1 when it can’t fit any glue records in and if a glue record matches the qname it chooses that. Before anyone complains that I’ve listed a response from .GOV servers they where informed years ago a