[DNSOP] BCP 207, RFC 8027 on DNSSEC Roadblock Avoidance

2016-11-28 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. BCP 207 RFC 8027 Title: DNSSEC Roadblock Avoidance Author: W. Hardaker, O. Gudmundsson, S. Krishnaswamy Status: Best Current

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-dickinson-dnsop-dns-capture-format-00.txt

2016-11-28 Thread Robert Edmonds
Paul Hoffman wrote: > On 1 Nov 2016, at 10:54, Philip Homburg wrote: > > > I find it hard to believe that after compression, the BSON encoded > > version of the DNS data would be a lot smaller than just the > > raw DNS data. > > Please note the use case in the draft: they don't want to burden the

Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa-06

2016-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Matthew Pounsett write s: > I think this draft is useful and necessary, and that the registration of > ipv4only.arpa within the SUDN registry is justified by the applicability > statement of RFC 6761. Having NAT64-unaware recursive servers answer > authoritatively as they would for

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Edward Lewis
On 11/28/16, 10:43, "DNSOP on behalf of Olafur Gudmundsson" wrote: b) pick one at “random" Please don't use the word random, not even in quotes, in this context. I suspect that somewhere along the line that a code writer will interpret that to mean a random number generator is needed. Other

[DNSOP] Review of draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa-06

2016-11-28 Thread Matthew Pounsett
I think this draft is useful and necessary, and that the registration of ipv4only.arpa within the SUDN registry is justified by the applicability statement of RFC 6761. Having NAT64-unaware recursive servers answer authoritatively as they would for other reserved names (e.g. RFC 1918 address rever

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 28 Nov 2016, at 7:50, Tony Finch wrote: > Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > >> There have been some discussion on this topic, It is fair to say that >> there are 3 camps >> >> a) answer with the smallest RRSET >> b) pick one at “random" >> c) select bases on what is most useful (i.e. deterministic s

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Tony Finch
Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > There have been some discussion on this topic, It is fair to say that > there are 3 camps > > a) answer with the smallest RRSET > b) pick one at “random" > c) select bases on what is most useful (i.e. deterministic selection) > > I would be happiest to go with b) and

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:25 AM, Matthijs Mekking wrote: > > Hi, > > I have read the draft and have two comments. Both of these have been called > out before, but I don't see them addressed in this version (-03): > > 1. In case of a DNS responder selecting one or a subset of the RRsets at the

Re: [DNSOP] NSEC3 aggressive use for unsigned zones

2016-11-28 Thread John R Levine
Perhaps the bloom-filter idea is something that should be explored after all (although I admit I don't see the relation to the unsigned NSEC3 approach)? I agree they might be interesting, but I'd like to keep them far away from pseudo-DNSSEC. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock

Re: [DNSOP] NSEC3 aggressive use for unsigned zones

2016-11-28 Thread Shane Kerr
John, At 2016-11-27 15:18:18 - "John Levine" wrote: > >What are the consequences of the authoritiative server returning > >synthesized unsigned NSEC3 RRs upon being signalled by the resolver > >using an EDNS option? > > A message to the world that there is no need to sign your zones, > be

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Are we still creating standards based on "BIND does this"? :p On 28-11-16 13:57, Tony Finch wrote: Matthijs Mekking wrote: 1. In case of a DNS responder selecting one or a subset of the RRsets at the QNAME, The draft does not give clear guidance on which RRset(s) to pick. The code in BIND j

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Tony Finch
Matthijs Mekking wrote: > > 1. In case of a DNS responder selecting one or a subset of the RRsets at the > QNAME, The draft does not give clear guidance on which RRset(s) to pick. The code in BIND just picks an arbitrary RRset, without making any effort to be clever. It makes an ANY query to the

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Hi, I have read the draft and have two comments. Both of these have been called out before, but I don't see them addressed in this version (-03): 1. In case of a DNS responder selecting one or a subset of the RRsets at the QNAME, The draft does not give clear guidance on which RRset(s) to pi

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

2016-11-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
I don't feel very strongly about renaming the draft. I just find a little bit confusing and I imagine I might not be the only one who might feel that way. One way or another I have already reviewed -03 versions of the draft and I think it is ready for publication. Cheers, -- Ondřej Surý -- Tech