Re: [DNSOP] OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-04

2016-01-07 Thread Jon Mitchell
On 05/01/16 17:40 +, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 23 Dec 2015, at 13:30, Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> > >> [JM] Sorry, this is my fault on the confusion on the previous two > >> comments - I was actually still confused by section 3.2.1 (not 3.3.2) > >> paragraph 3, why a DNS client would fir

Re: [DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

2016-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/7/16 11:35 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote: > > On 1/7/16, 2:30 PM, "Brian Haberman" > wrote: > >>> What happens now? A two week PS Last Call? (a question for >>> JoelŠ) >> >> As an AD (at least for the next 3 months), I don't think we ne

Re: [DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

2016-01-07 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi Allison, On 1/7/16 2:26 PM, Mankin, Allison wrote: > Alvaro, > > Thanks for the update! I did quickly learn my error on this. It shows > how we skim familiar things like Last Calls - I had expected it was PS and > I didn¹t see the IS designation there at all. > > I wasn¹t able to be on the

Re: [DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

2016-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
It is intended as ps, given the changes I think advancement to IS is not warrented notwithstanding wide deployment. The duration of the last call looks to be my bad and I will have to correct that. joel On 1/6/16 8:55 AM, Mankin, Allison wrote: > Alvaro, > > The draft aims for PS, not IS. I thi

[DNSOP] Stephen Farrell's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer t

Re: [DNSOP] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/7/16 6:52 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hi Sara, > > On 07/01/16 10:54, sara wrote: >> >>> On 6 Jan 2016, at 21:58, Stephen Farrell >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hiya, Speaking for myself I don’t see this as the solution to managing DTLS sessions, I think that would be better handl

Re: [DNSOP] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread Ben Campbell
On 7 Jan 2016, at 6:56, sara wrote: === Editorial=== -1: "... TCP is henceforth a REQUIRED ..." Since the normative language is strengthened in section 5, the REQUIRED seems redundant here. I'd suggest stating this without the 2119 keyword. This mimics exactly what was done in the original

Re: [DNSOP] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread Ben Campbell
On 7 Jan 2016, at 5:34, sara wrote: On 6 Jan 2016, at 20:08, Ben Campbell wrote: Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: No Objection -- COMMENT:

[DNSOP] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://w

Re: [DNSOP] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

2016-01-07 Thread Allison Mankin
Hi Stephen, We're glad you drew this important point to our attention, but it appears to be needed for draft-ietf-dprive-dns-over-tls rather than this draft. In this draft we don't touch on the privacy/TLS motivation for TCP at all, leaving all that for the dprive draft. The dprive draft has jus

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread sara
> On 6 Jan 2016, at 14:54, Brian Haberman wrote: > > -- > COMMENT: > -- > > While I am not a fan of standards-track requirements documents, I > understand the

Re: [DNSOP] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread sara
> On 6 Jan 2016, at 20:08, Ben Campbell wrote: > > Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: No Objection > > -- > COMMENT: > --

Re: [DNSOP] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread Benoit Claise
Sara and Ray, I made my point. If you guys feel strongly about that, fine with me. It's a COMMENT after all. Regards, Benoit On 6 Jan 2016, at 15:32, Benoit Claise wrote: Ray, I understand this. My point is that, at some point in time, history doesn't matter any longer. Hi, FWIIW I’m wit

Re: [DNSOP] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread sara
> On 6 Jan 2016, at 15:32, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Ray, > > I understand this. > My point is that, at some point in time, history doesn't matter any longer. Hi, FWIIW I’m with Ray on this one - I think it is important to retain the full title. I think the change of SHOULD to MUST for TCP

Re: [DNSOP] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2016-01-07 Thread sara
> On 6 Jan 2016, at 21:58, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > Hiya, >> >> Speaking for myself I don’t see this as the solution to managing DTLS >> sessions, I think that would be better handled with a TLS extension. > > Yes, that's the obvious answer, and a not bad answer. Did the > dnsop WG (or dp