Re: [DNSOP] Requesting WGLC of draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-*

2015-10-01 Thread str4d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Christian Grothoff wrote: > Dear DNSOP / chairs, > > The same applies to the various P2P drafts: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p- > > bit/ Section 5, paragraph 3 - The example uses .onion, which I assume i

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Evan Hunt
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 09:02:09AM -0700, Ólafur Guðmundsson wrote: > Only validating resolver will send follow up query, Correct, but it would send them to every name server until it got a non-bogus reply. This is unnecessary collateral damage. > Here is the deal there are 3 sources of ANY queri

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-05.txt

2015-10-01 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : Decreasing Access Time to Root Servers by Running One on Loopback Authors : Warren

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread George Michaelson
Strong +1. This is an obvious, useful, rational and alas, strictly irrelevant point. Which I agree with. -G On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 12:51 PM, David Conrad wrote: > > > On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:45 AM, John Levine wrote: > > > >>> Uh, no. The *only* loopback address is ::1. The rest of ::/8 is

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread John R Levine
On your system, I'm sure it works fine. On other systems that implement IPv6 in other ways, maybe not. Which is why I think https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ipversion6-loopback-prefix-00 should be resurrected (not directly relevant to DNSOP of course). Seems like a good idea. I've got a d

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread David Conrad
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:45 AM, John Levine wrote: > >>> Uh, no. The *only* loopback address is ::1. The rest of ::/8 is >>> reserved. >> >> Anything is a loopback address if you alias it on your loopback interface. >> >> ::2 was only intended as an example (that's why I said "salt to ta

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread John Levine
>> Uh, no. The *only* loopback address is ::1. The rest of ::/8 is >> reserved. > >Anything is a loopback address if you alias it on your loopback interface. > >::2 was only intended as an example (that's why I said "salt to taste"), >but it was not a particularly well-chosen one. On your s

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Ólafur Guðmundsson
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:28:45PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > > 1. Return an unsigned response. This will be marked as bogus, and > > trigger a QTYPE=HINFO re-query that will either return an actual signed > > HINFO from the zone or a signed pro

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
This may be a little off-topic for DNSOP, but has anyone considered submitting Errata for RFC 4291 to add the word "physical" before the word "interface" to the sentence "A packet received on an interface with a destination address of loopback must be dropped" ? Because, as it stands, if take

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Paul Vixie
Shane Kerr wrote: > > > In the case where people just want to reduce the damage of ANY queries > in reflection attacks, I quite like the PowerDNS option of forcing ANY > queries to TCP via truncation. I'm not sure if this has been documented > in any RFC, but if not then perhaps it bears mentioni

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Shane Kerr
On 2015-10-01 12:13+0100 Dick Franks wrote: > Dick Franks > > > > On 1 October 2015 at 11:12, Shane Kerr wrote: > > > > > In the case where people just want to reduce the damage of ANY queries > > in reflection attacks, I quite like the PowerDNS option of forcing ANY

[DNSOP] Brian Haberman's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread Brian Haberman
Brian Haberman has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http

[DNSOP] Stephen Farrell's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to htt

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Dick Franks
Dick Franks On 1 October 2015 at 11:12, Shane Kerr wrote: > > In the case where people just want to reduce the damage of ANY queries > in reflection attacks, I quite like the PowerDNS option of forcing ANY > queries to TCP via truncation. I'm not sure if this has been d

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Shane Kerr
Joe and all, On 2015-10-01 02:25-0400 "Joe Abley" wrote: > On 1 Oct 2015, at 1:08, Evan Hunt wrote: > > > The disadvantages of pick-one-RRset that I can see are 1) more > > information leaked (but nothing that couldn't be obtained by sending > > queries for individual qtypes anyway), and 2) mod

Re: [DNSOP] Brian Haberman's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-04: (with COMMENT)

2015-10-01 Thread Tony Finch
John Levine wrote: > > If you have a loopback software interface, you could set up a link > local address like fe80::1, but now your DNS software has to > understand link scoped addresses like fe80::1%lo. > > Having set up a DNS cache on my LAN using link local IPv6 addresses, I > can report that

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-muks-dnsop-dns-message-checksums-00.txt

2015-10-01 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Hoffman wrote: > > For this type of system, you want a hash or checksum function where > finding collisions takes more than N attempts, and all of those attempts > must be based on random guessing, not on some structure of the messages. > N can be calibrated by the value of an attacker foolin