Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-02.txt

2015-06-04 Thread Tony Finch
I like the formatting in the new draft, a great improvement! And thanks for incorporating so many of my suggestions. I mentioned an alphabetical index in my previous comment - I expect that will be easier to add during final editing. I want to mention it again because one of the main questions a r

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback

2015-06-04 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 4, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > Are there any implementations of this draft? Assuming you mean "is anyone deploying the ideas in this draft, particularly those in Appendix B", that would be good information for the authors to have. > If resolvers are encouraged to use NSEC recor

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback

2015-06-04 Thread Tony Finch
Are there any implementations of this draft? If resolvers are encouraged to use NSEC records to synthesize NXDOMAIN responses, would there still be any point to this draft? Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ Rockall: Southeasterly 5 to 7, becoming cyclonic 7 to severe gale 9, occasio

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-wkumari-dnsop-alt-tld

2015-06-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi The Adoption period passed last night and we had many comments, and the rough consensus is that this should be adopted by the working group. Authors, can you submit your updated version. Thanks to all with the constructive comments. tim On 5/20/15 7:13 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: From the

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback

2015-06-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback/ https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-01 Please review the draft and offer relevant com

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread John Levine
>I agree that if you had a registry that had no unique entry, there'd >be no problem. But if you have to be prepared for identifier >collisions anyway, what use is the registry? It tells you where to find out about foo.alt if you want to use that particular un-DNS hack. Other than that, not much

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 12:16:05PM -0400, Bob Harold wrote: > > I think the difference is that ".alt" names should not be leaked into DNS, > but should be kept private. But there will be such leaks, so that's no defence. And for local use, a DNS leak wouldn't be an issue either, some would argue

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 07:53:02PM -, John Levine wrote: > I think the key difference would be that it would accept any number of > entries for the same string I thought that Ted's idea was uniqueness. (Otherwise there wouldn't be a landrush.) I agree that if you had a registry that had no u

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread John Levine
>> This is a really good point. I think there does need to be a .ALT registry >> in order for .ALT to be able to >address anything other than experimental uses. >And I think this would actually be a good thing. > >If we created a registry for alt, how would alt not be just another >TLD with exac

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread Bob Harold
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 01:48:41PM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > > > > This is a really good point. I think there does need to be a .ALT > registry in order for .ALT to be able to address anything other than > experimental uses. > And I thin

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld

2015-06-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 01:48:41PM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > > This is a really good point. I think there does need to be a .ALT registry > in order for .ALT to be able to address anything other than experimental uses. And I think this would actually be a good thing. If we created a registry f

Re: [DNSOP] followup and proposed actions: RFC 6761 interim and next steps

2015-06-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 07:06:11AM -0500, Tom Ritter wrote: > On 5/19/15 5:18 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > > round.) Is there something that the IETF should be doing to help DNS > > implementers and operators handle this change in the environment? > > Yes - and I've not been following the effort clo

Re: [DNSOP] Debugging DNSSEC SERVFAILs on resolver side

2015-06-04 Thread Petr Spacek
On 3.6.2015 17:00, Evan Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 08:40:16AM +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: >> Could this be added to agenda for IETF 93? Does it make sense to discuss >> it there? > > Unfortunately I won't be in Prague, but I do expect to be in Yokohama. > If you or someone else would like