Re: [DNSOP] AS112 LOA?

2007-11-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Paul Vixie wrote: >>So, would it be possible for one or more of the root server operators to >>prepare a generic-yet-official-looking LOA on suitable "letterhead" and >>perhaps stash it on www.root-servers.org somewhere? > in principle, sure. If anyone, even those with their own root zone conten

Re: [DNSOP] AS112 LOA?

2007-11-28 Thread Paul Vixie
> So, would it be possible for one or more of the root server operators to > prepare a generic-yet-official-looking LOA on suitable "letterhead" and > perhaps stash it on www.root-servers.org somewhere? in principle, sure. but i think if it's a form available on the web, then some enterprising tr

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread Joe Baptista
John Crain wrote: Speculation is all it is and I probably have no better ideas than many folks here. Be better to try and figure out what is really happening... I think this is just a knock on effect from the fact that many folks don't keep their systems up to date, especially smaller ne

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread John Crain
Speculation is all it is and I probably have no better ideas than many folks here. Be better to try and figure out what is really happening... I think this is just a knock on effect from the fact that many folks don't keep their systems up to date, especially smaller networks. Typically the

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread Joe Baptista
Yes - many questions and few answer and very little data available for the community to figure out those answers. John Crain should publish stats more often. Why indeed does root behave so strangely. That little 40 percentage thingy indeed does raise alotof questions. John can you speculate for

RE: [DNSOP] Always registering the IP address of the name serversduring a delegation?

2007-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > In the .nl registry system we only need glue for ns1.example.nl if it's in > the NS set of example.nl. Interesting, since last week I ended up with hundreds of "glue records" in the .nl database being wrong, because I changed the IP address of one

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:55:44 +0100, Peter Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly > > > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date their hints files :( > > part of that traffic will be due to old hints files, but priming was > actu

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread Joe Baptista
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: old "B" topolgy didnt change... :) hmm. very demure, and i mean that in a coyly decorous sober sort of way. i've have an ip range that had roots running on it since the days of the ORSC. those roots to this day get traffic. Lots of DNS traffic across al

Re: B-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 05:28:47PM +0100, bert hubert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 04:22:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The increase in traffic might easily be due to more favourable > > > connectivity > > > to 'B', which would lead many resolver implementations to shift more > >

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bert hubert
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 04:22:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The increase in traffic might easily be due to more favourable connectivity > > to 'B', which would lead many resolver implementations to shift more queries > > to it. > > > > Bert > > > > old "B" topolgy didnt chan

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 05:15:59PM +0100, bert hubert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 04:07:59PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > and perhaps more interesting, the old address for "B" > > showed a tapering off of traffic and then an INCREASE > > last year. Old L and J got their nu

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bert hubert
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 04:07:59PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > and perhaps more interesting, the old address for "B" > showed a tapering off of traffic and then an INCREASE > last year. Old L and J got their numbers less than a > decade ago. ... so i would not go b

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:58:17AM -0500, Matt Larson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Peter Koch wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:35:29PM -0800, John Crain wrote: > > > > > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly > > > > > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date

Re: [DNSOP] AS112 LOA?

2007-11-28 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:15:51AM -0500, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 27-Nov-2007, at 10:23, Paul Vixie wrote: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Kumari) writes: > > > >>... What do people think about setting up a legal entity called RSTOA > >>that would then perform some very simple checks before handin

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread Matt Larson
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Peter Koch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:35:29PM -0800, John Crain wrote: > > > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly > > > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date their hints files :( > > part of that traffic will be due to old hints

Re: [DNSOP] AS112 LOA?

2007-11-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 27-Nov-2007, at 10:23, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Kumari) writes: ... What do people think about setting up a legal entity called RSTOA that would then perform some very simple checks before handing out a LOA? RSTOA is an existing unincorporated association. you can a

Re: [DNSOP] Always registering the IP address of the name servers during a delegation?

2007-11-28 Thread Frederico A C Neves
Bill, On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:57:13PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:05:55PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > > At 6:25 PM + 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > then we have a small issue... you as zone admin, can't > > > dictate which IP's i must us

Re: [DNSOP] Always registering the IP address of the name servers during a delegation?

2007-11-28 Thread Edward Lewis
The issue of collecting IP address for name servers in the context of the APWG draft is not about glue. The issue is not glue but actions taken to thwart malicious activity. At 6:46 PM -0500 11/27/07, Brian Dickson wrote: And that glue is needed only, strictly speaking, when the NS FQDN is a

Re: [DNSOP] Re: L-Root address change (Was: AS112 for TLDs

2007-11-28 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:12 , Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:55:44AM +0100, Peter Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 16 lines which said: part of that traffic will be due to old hints files, but priming was actually supposed to accelerate the migration.

Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread bert hubert
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:55:44AM +0100, Peter Koch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:35:29PM -0800, John Crain wrote: > > > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly > > > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date their hints files :( > > part of that traffic will

[DNSOP] Re: L-Root address change (Was: AS112 for TLDs

2007-11-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:55:44AM +0100, Peter Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 16 lines which said: > part of that traffic will be due to old hints files, but priming was > actually supposed to accelerate the migration. Do all resolvers actually perform priming? BIND does but the

L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

2007-11-28 Thread Peter Koch
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:35:29PM -0800, John Crain wrote: > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date their hints files :( part of that traffic will be due to old hints files, but priming was actually supposed to accelerat

Re: [DNSOP] Always registering the IP address of the name serversduring a delegation?

2007-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >=20 > > but its not example.orgs call if ns.isi.edu changed its ip > > address to 127.0.3.12... is it? that would be the call of the > > admin for ns.isi.edu.=20 > >=20 > > and if there were no contact information on that nameserver in > > the form of

RE: [DNSOP] Always registering the IP address of the name serversduring a delegation?

2007-11-28 Thread Antoin Verschuren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > but its not example.orgs call if ns.isi.edu changed its ip > address to 127.0.3.12... is it? that would be the call of the > admin for ns.isi.edu. > > and if there were no contact information on that nameserver in > the form of a HOST record