Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 08/11/2021 15:54, Chris Buckridge wrote: Anyone here attend yesterday's HLIG meeting and can share a presentation or meeting notes? Thanks, Hank Hi Hank, all, I don’t have a lot that I can add to what Nick and Step

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Taras Heichenko
> On 10 Nov 2021, at 17:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:24:16PM +0100, > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote > a message of 13 lines which said: > >> The data is not sensitive (the DNS is public), not the fact that you >> request it. > > Correct sentence: the data is no

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Randy Bush
>> Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and >> pishing"? > > We can be reasonably sure it will not. If it is actually used, we can > expect IP (not Internet Protocol) lawyers asking for a censorship of > sci-hub.se and politicians asking for censorship of [current political

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Erwin Hoffmann
Salut Stephane, Am Mittwoch, dem 10.11.2021 um 16:34 +0100 schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:24:16PM +0100, >  Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote >  a message of 13 lines which said: > > > The data is not sensitive (the DNS is public), not the fact that you > > request it. > >

Re: [dns-wg] DNS wg co-chair selection: candidates

2021-11-10 Thread Petr Špaček
+1 for Moritz as well Petr Špaček On 03. 11. 21 14:09, João Damas wrote: Dear all, The deadline for DNS WG co-chair candidate volunteering is now over. I am happy to announce that we have two great candidates. The period to express support for your preferred candidate(s) starts now and runs

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:24:16PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote a message of 13 lines which said: > The data is not sensitive (the DNS is public), not the fact that you > request it. Correct sentence: the data is not sensitive (the DNS is public), but the fact that you request it *is* sen

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Taras Heichenko
> On 10 Nov 2021, at 17:24, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 05:05:53PM +0200, > Taras Heichenko wrote > a message of 60 lines which said: > >> I am not sure that I understand how a resolver can follow >> GDPR. WHOIS, RDAP – ok, these services really may disclose some

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:58:40PM +0100, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote a message of 40 lines which said: > DNS4EU is intended to provide DNS filtering of malware and pishing. Most malware and phishing pages that are reported to us, as a registry, are not in "bad" domains but under a legitim

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 05:05:53PM +0200, Taras Heichenko wrote a message of 60 lines which said: > I am not sure that I understand how a resolver can follow > GDPR. WHOIS, RDAP – ok, these services really may disclose some > sensitive information. How does a resolver can break GDPR? You shou

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 04:08:20PM +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote a message of 7 lines which said: > Are we sure that 'it' (definition...) will stop at "malware and > pishing"? We can be reasonably sure it will not. If it is actually used, we can expect IP (not Internet Protocol) lawyers aski

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Nils Wisiol
On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 16:08 +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > On 10.11.2021 15:58, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote: > > Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable > > service that strictly follows GDPR. > > Current large open resolvers fall under the US Cloud Act with no > > pri

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Carsten Schiefner
On 10.11.2021 15:58, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote: > Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable service that > strictly follows GDPR. > Current large open resolvers fall under the US Cloud Act with no privacy for > non US citizens. > > DNS4EU is intended to provide DNS fil

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Taras Heichenko
> On 10 Nov 2021, at 16:58, Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg wrote: > > Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable service that > strictly follows GDPR. I am not sure that I understand how a resolver can follow GDPR. WHOIS, RDAP – ok, these services really may disclose some sen

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg
Well, the general idea is that the resolver provides a reliable service that strictly follows GDPR. Current large open resolvers fall under the US Cloud Act with no privacy for non US citizens. DNS4EU is intended to provide DNS filtering of malware and pishing. But with the intention of actuall

Re: [dns-wg] DNS wg co-chair selection: candidates

2021-11-10 Thread Ulrich Wisser via dns-wg
+1 for Moritz. Kind regards /Ulrich > On 3 Nov 2021, at 14:09, João Damas wrote: > > Dear all, > > The deadline for DNS WG co-chair candidate volunteering is now over. > I am happy to announce that we have two great candidates. > The period to express support for your preferred candidate(

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Carsten Schiefner
On 08.11.2021 14:15, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 07:12:38AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote a message of 34 lines which said: Does anyone have further insight into the European initiative known as DNS4EU? There is very little actual information published on th

Re: [dns-wg] DNS4EU?

2021-11-10 Thread Carsten Schiefner
Please do, Chris. Thanks! On 08.11.2021 14:54, Chris Buckridge wrote: [...], but minutes are published publicly, and the RIPE NCC can report back to this working group if there are any updates of note.