Re: [dns-operations] Hearing first complains about failing internal resolving due to .prod TLD

2014-09-15 Thread Keith Mitchell
On 09/13/2014 10:45 AM, David Conrad wrote: > On Sep 13, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Franck Martin > wrote: >> I’m not sure why the dot prod was not first set up to return >> NXDOMAIN, queries logged, and then source IP contacted to warn >> them >> May be this is an insight now, may be this is something

Re: [dns-operations] Hearing first complains about failing internal resolving due to .prod TLD

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Wessels, Duane wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On Sep 11, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: >> >>> for the time being, and perhaps for a long time to come, the >>> people who call the presence of .PROD a bug and/or depend on it

Re: [dns-operations] Hearing first complains about failing internal resolving due to .prod TLD

2014-09-15 Thread Wessels, Duane
On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Sep 11, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: > >> for the time being, and perhaps for a long time to come, the >> people who call the presence of .PROD a bug and/or depend on its absence >> as a feature, outnumbers and will outnumber the peo

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > So allowing fragmented packets to them to support EDNS >1280 responses > without limiting the advertised EDNS buffer size may leave the box vulnerable > to attacks (and which ones)? If you're talking about recursive resolvers, then prohibiti

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Tony Finch
Roland Dobbins wrote: > On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > > > That is, you need to limit the size of response that you send (max-udp-size > > in BIND terms). > > Do you recommend that it be lowered to 1280 or thereabouts for IPv6? Not enough data, sorry. In practice the ethernet

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Franck Martin
On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > Franck Martin wrote: >> >> What is the recommended setup for EDNS? >> -limit size to <1500? on both IPv4 and IPv6? > > Yes, on some if not all of your authority servers. That is, you need to > limit the size of response that you send (max-udp-

Re: [dns-operations] Hearing first complains about failing internal resolving due to .prod TLD

2014-09-15 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > > On 13.09.14 17:54, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: >>> for the time being, and perhaps for a long time to come, the people

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > max-udp-size in BIND terms btw, my impression is that the OP was asking about network policies, not DNS server settings - correction welcome if this wasn't the case. -- Roland

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > That is, you need to limit the size of response that you send (max-udp-size > in BIND terms). Do you recommend that it be lowered to 1280 or thereabouts for IPv6? -- Roland Dob

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Tony Finch
Franck Martin wrote: > > What is the recommended setup for EDNS? > -limit size to <1500? on both IPv4 and IPv6? Yes, on some if not all of your authority servers. That is, you need to limit the size of response that you send (max-udp-size in BIND terms). (Don't get confused with your advertized E

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > It may be interesting against amplification attacks (although it seems > everyone moved to NTP amplification attacks, abandoning the DNS). Actually, this isn't really what we're seeing - ntp and SSDP and SNMP and chargen and tftp refle

Re: [dns-operations] EDNS with IPv4 and IPv6 (DNSSEC or large answers)

2014-09-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:37:52AM +, Franck Martin wrote a message of 61 lines which said: > -limit size to <1500? on both IPv4 and IPv6? It may be interesting against amplification attacks (although it seems everyone moved to NTP amplification attacks, abandoning the DNS). For fragmenta

Re: [dns-operations] Hearing first complains about failing internal resolving due to .prod TLD

2014-09-15 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 13.09.14 17:54, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> On Sep 11, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: >> >>> for the time being, and perhaps for a long time to come, the >>> people who call the presence of .PROD a bug and/or depend on its absenc