[DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-09 Thread spiralofhope
Problem: avconv crashes while building a video from an image and audio. It worked until a recent update. (I'll also hang out on IRC in case people need me live.) I am using Devuan-1.0.0-jessie-i386-DVD According to `apt-cache show libav-tools` I have 6:11.12-1~deb8u1 I am tr

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-09 Thread spiralofhope
Whoa, I had thought libav was a drop-in replacement for a deprecated ffmmpeg! I'll follow that lead, thanks a lot. On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:48:00 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Am 2018-04-10 04:25, schrieb spiralofhope: > > Problem: > > avconv crashes while buil

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-09 Thread spiralofhope
I had never heard of Trinity until now, and I've done a bit of searching through distributions without systemd: https://blog.spiralofhope.com/tag/linux-distributions-which-do-not-use-systemd It might still be available for one of them, but I suspect that when I looked, it wasn't the main deskto

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-10 Thread spiralofhope
I went down that rabbit hole, but it didn't work out. I'm going to wait for ascii to come out, or possibly check out the beta if I get impatient. -- If anyone is morbidly curious, I took some notes: https://blog.spiralofhope.com/?p=36766 archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20180410095921/h

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-10 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:30:43 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Am 2018-04-10 04:25, schrieb spiralofhope: > > Problem: > > avconv crashes while building a video from an image and audio. It > > worked until a recent update. > > What do you mean with "cras

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-10 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:08:44 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > Maybe the issue lays on some codec you're using? I thought that as well. h.265 was not available, and I didn't understand codecs enough to change that switch. `avconv -codecs` is a lot to go through. > You could upgrade to Ascii, f

Re: [DNG] Crash when using recent avconv (libav-tools)

2018-04-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:10:10 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Then that's not a bug, it's a feature. ;-) > OGG seems not to be a supported codec for mp4 containers. > http://mp4ra.org/codecs.html > > Try using some other codec (aac) or container (mkv). Well it used to work and now it doesn't, so it'

Re: [DNG] Typing lags in Firefox 52.7.3 while commenting on youtube.

2018-04-27 Thread spiralofhope
The most brute-force test is to create a whole new user profile: # (exit firefox) mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup # (launch, re-test) # (exit firefox) rm -rf ~/.mozilla mv ~/.mozilla-backup ~/.mozilla On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:55:36 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I am lat

Re: [DNG] Typing lags in Firefox 52.7.3 while commenting on youtube.

2018-04-27 Thread spiralofhope
I'd agree, but then the profile has to be deleted after and I didn't want to bother checking to see if manager does that correctly. On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 20:42:06 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > It's even more easy: Just start firefox with the "--ProfileManager" > option and create a new user pro

Re: [DNG] Typing lags in Firefox 52.7.3 while commenting on youtube.

2018-04-27 Thread spiralofhope
It still hasn't been determined if this is confirmed to be a Devuan issue or not, so Firefox needs to be ruled out. No it's not supposed to be a solution, it's just information-gathering. Welcome to software testing; yes, we turn things off then on again. On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:37:22 +0100 Kat

[DNG] Airwalled updating

2018-05-05 Thread spiralofhope
I had airwalled [1] updating working on Debian variants (Lubuntu at least) some years ago, and I intend to pursue it again once ascii is out (or if I use the beta). I searched this mailing list and did not find any topical conversation. Is anyone here actively doing such a thing? - I have some o

Re: [DNG] Airwalled updating

2018-05-05 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 6 May 2018 00:55:10 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > Not actively, but I used to use the apt-offline tool with Debian for a > while - and it worked, IIRC, well and quite simple. I did some looking, and confirmed that I had been using apt-offline.[1] I hunted it down and found that it's sti

Re: [DNG] Airwalled updating (apt-offline)

2018-05-05 Thread spiralofhope
re. apt-offline: http://rickysarraf.github.io/apt-offline/ https://github.com/rickysarraf/apt-offline I found old notes. I have to audit this project, then it'll be here: https://github.com/spiralofhope/shell-random/tree/master/live/apt-offline Those notes will be old and pos

Re: [DNG] Airwalled updating

2018-05-06 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 6 May 2018 12:37:12 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > I just found that the "offline" documentation in the apt-doc package, > > /usr/share/doc/apt-doc/offline.html/index.html Confirmed, thanks a lot. I see 1.0.9.8.4, copyright 1999 though. --- > For all three solutions I am wondering,

Re: [DNG] Home server replacement hardware suggestions?

2018-07-07 Thread spiralofhope
CCed as I think the list is unhappy with my IP address. On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:03:35 +1000 wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions on what to get or where to look? > Intel vs AMD? You could get a cheap Dell laptop. Even the cheapest will be completely overpowered as a

[DNG] data reliability (was: Home server replacement hardware suggestions?)

2018-07-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 05:09:36 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > Do not use the words "USB" and "disk" together, please -- in any > context that involves basic reliability, and, especially, not > corrupting data. I understand there are problems with USB sticks, but what's wrong with that connection for

Re: [DNG] data reliability (was: Home server replacement hardware suggestions?)

2018-07-14 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 20:56:46 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > I understand there are problems with USB sticks, but what's wrong with > that connection for a drive? (assuming cabling won't get kicked > out) This isn't Devuan-related, but as I had been given a flat dictate

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:53:17 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim > that something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt. I consider it a god of the gaps argument. There are blind spots in the many eyes, and there cou

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my > > computer. > > Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-) aka "plonk". For anyone young: https://en

Re: [DNG] New user of Devuan

2018-07-23 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 16:59:24 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > and "umount -v $CD ;eject -v $CD " when I just > want the darn thing out of my drive or usb hole. ;o) mine is: eject -i 0 ; eject ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.d

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-26 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:49:45 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > KatolaZ writes: > > > The medium-term plan is to replace libsystemd0 with a libnosystemd > > ... > > +1, although I'd prefer a more original and playful name ;-) libsystemc =p ___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] the azeri project is underway. education for programming children with devuan

2018-07-26 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 21:15:39 +0200 Basati wrote: > I've already named it: azeri (in Basque it means fox, children will > need the skills of a fox for this) Children will GET the skills of a fox with this. :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org htt

Re: [DNG] [OT] donate to Slackware

2018-07-26 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:46:17 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/donating-to-slackware-4175634729/#post5882751 Thanks for sharing. Six more pages were added while I was reading the thread.. people really care. My roots are from Slackware, and I've alway

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:00:05 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > Unfortunately, most of the great people that helped stripping > libsystemd deps in Jessie, just disappeared soon after One of the tricks is to get a disliked project up and running to make it the de facto alternative, then either pulling out to

Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."' Oh god that's spectacular. It also explains a lot.. I'll have to meditate on this. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 00:04:35 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > More popcorn!! And let's see the limits of your imaginations... To toss my hat in: With an already-compromised system, *technically* USB itself, with nothing plugged in, can transmit radio waves. Offhand, I wasn't able to find the CCC

Re: [DNG] [OT] donate to Slackware

2018-08-02 Thread spiralofhope
I'm really disturbed by Pat's problems, especially because they've been ongoing. I'm so jaded that half of me thinks this is a fund raising con. On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:03:24 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > I am in favor of facilitating the strong passion of people who like to > "just do it" ... Relate

Re: [DNG] [OT] donate to Slackware

2018-08-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:58:54 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > With all due respects to Slackware, can't we find anything about > Devuan to discuss? I agree there are more topical things to discuss, but there's also nothing wrong with setting an uninteresting thread to ignore if it's bothersome. M

Re: [DNG] OT - LXDE themes and Palemoon widget coloring

2018-08-08 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 22:54:36 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Offered for your consideration: the name 'Brightsun'. Finding a > permissive-licensed logo of a bright sun is left as an exercise for > the reader, and is in short not brain surgery. > > But, but, but: 'Brightsun won't start out with high na

Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:01:42 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > * they're trying to introduce a kind of legal system into a tech > project this. It's the introduction of a parallel legal system. It is then used as a special exception to the actual legal system, as a tool of powe

Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-10-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:20:00 +0100 Rowland Penny wrote: > You know what, that sounds very like what the EU is trying to become, > thank your deity we are getting out of it. FYI, "The European Union".. 1) Internally refers to themselves as "The Union". 2) Has been making efforts to include co

Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:21:11 +0200 "Michael K." wrote: > A "text editor" tells me on opening the file: this file is a invalid > UTF-8 I also use Geany. I checked my own ".xsession-errors" and mine opens correctly. Since the contents of this file are individual, I wonder if you have something t

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:47:18 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..could this be Big Blue buying Red Hat to kill systemd? As I understand, IBM's largest asset licensing its pool of patents. With that in mind, I think of this purchase of Red Hat as them attempting to cement control in something fundament

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread spiralofhope
I don't know if it's related, but I noticed that some emails aren't getting put in the lists.dyne.org mailing list archives. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] [OT] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:15:42 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:31:56AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> > >> # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a > >> file. > > > > Maybe because muscle memory know the editor commands for finding > > things in

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-07 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 08:55:55 +0100 Andreas Messer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you > > want Gemini or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any > > real hacking. You at most connect

Re: [DNG] inconsistent scanner device number on USB bus

2018-11-11 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:17:24 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I'm running ASCII and attempting to get a Canon LiDE 220 scanner to > work. I don't know enough to help, but thought I might share that I own a Canon LiDE 120. While it was listed as being supported it turns out that Canon quietly swappe

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:11:17 +1300 Daniel Reurich wrote: > At this stage there is no plan to make it forced... Not publicly. On the one hand, this is additional work. On the other hand, we've seen efforts focused toward fewer choices / committing to less development variety (though whether it'

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:10:17 -0800 spiralofhope wrote: > I conclude this is a transitory step toward making this mandatory; > something like propagating the idea to ease transitional pains. Oh, and I suppose I could chime in on the notion of Devuan following suit. Of course it should. A

Re: [DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
--- This is a bike shed topic for me. Incoming bullshittery. :) --- On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:15:39 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Now > what happens if I let go any belief that some of them are true or > right, preferably my own, and some of them are false or wrong, > preferably those of ap

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 15:14:10 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > I don't yet run drive encryption, but may start. I encourage it. It's straightforward, and was surprisingly good performance for me, even on rust. I did it from scratch, prepping a whole drive and then copying data from elsewhere, and holy

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:45:56 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Drive encryption has advantages in terms of keeping secrets and > foiling the evil-maid scenario. I always thought an evil maid could fiddle with the bootloader/etc or root to wholly compromise the system somewhat easily, and then it's ju

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:51 +0100 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Could you have /boot on a USB stick that you carry with you when not > at the computer? Oh my, this is an elegant solution! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] My setup, and why I like it

2018-11-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:18:53 -0600 Dan Pridgeon wrote: > I look forward to your "detailed > instructions" around this issue.  (Though retired out of the computer > test environment, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to the > collaborative development via the Internet environment.)  I'm very

Re: [DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness

2018-11-25 Thread spiralofhope
to you, I hope you can clarify yourself if you need to. Ultimately what I've learned is: Sometimes it's pointless or harmful to engage in a contest of opinions > spiralofhope - 24.11.18, 18:24: > > The binary is real. > > For me it is not. It is just part of the

Re: [DNG] Mutuality and harmlessness

2018-11-25 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:40:28 + blinkdog wrote: > This discussion reminds me of a particularly apt web comic: > > https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-11-01 That's awesome. And correct-ish. It's not objectively wrong to scare children. Still, anyone who disagrees is _a monster_ (under t

Re: [DNG] [OT] The End of Trust

2018-12-04 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018 20:26:51 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Most of it is familiar but I did discover something that I didn't > know. This is something I suspected since the 2000s when I realized how capable JavaScript had become. I'll articulate this problem as: Your mouse position and timi

Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:14:39 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > If you want to have more devs, you need to attract a larger > userbase. > > I'm surprised to see Eric advance this non-sequitur. Open source > projects attract developers because their needs and objectives (or the > needs and objectives of

Re: [DNG] A concrete proposal [was: Re: Drive-by critique]

2018-12-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:37:36 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > If anybody is wondering "how can I help Devuan" and is ready to do > something concrete in that direction, putting together such a simple > webpage would be a valuable contribution. I don't know how much I believe this myself, but.. Anyone wh

Re: [DNG] network measurement

2021-05-07 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 8 May 2021 09:40:51 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > do you ping anything while on these delays? if you're losing many > packages, then i'd call ISP first to check dsl line.. I once had significant packet loss and my ISPs solution was to actually _lower_ my speeds to reduce it. I have n

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-15 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 14 May 2021 14:27:15 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 09.05.21 08:33, tito via Dng wrote: > > > So the first question that arises is: > > how could open source and free software projects ensure > > protection from damage up to data loss if actually even proprietary >

Re: [DNG] Strange browser home

2021-05-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:01:51 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Interesting. Makes me wonder if, when firefox is started with a > file:/// style URL it bothers to pass the content of that file to the > remote firefox... Probably not A commandline with a file:// reference will just start or switch t

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-26 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:25:16 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > Has anyone attempted to put Devuan on an eBook yet ? Devuan is Debian without systemd. Check with the Debian people. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-

Re: [DNG] ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity ditches spyware.

2021-07-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 07:09:18 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity > ditches spyware: FLOSS Audacity Fork without any Telemetry or > Reporting: https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity I'm pleased with Audacity's implementation. These are

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-07-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great distance, > already running processes may get very distressed or fall over, log > files will become very peculiar, etc. I saw a YouTube video that demonstrated how 3D printing produce

Re: [DNG] ..tenacity replaces Audacity like Devuan replaces Debian? Tenacity ditches spyware.

2021-07-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:34:46 -0700 wrote: > Audacity is now restricted from minors, violating GPL: > https://technewsinc.com/after-its-acquisition-audacity-takes-care-of-its-users-data/ Maybe I misunderstand; I found some discussion on this topic: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/1249

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-07-09 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 13:10:24 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com said on Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:47:14 -0700 > > [...] > >> If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great > >> distance, already running processes may get very distressed or > >> fall over, log files wi

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-29 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > 11) Document and document and document all the code (vars, functions, > errors etc. ... all) It was mentioned earlier; variables and functions wouldn't need much (if any) documentation if they were long and descriptive. I like using short phras

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-29 Thread spiralofhope
Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense; check the rules against the rules -- de-duplicate, simplify, add documentation, etc. :) Internal consistency? I don't know the correct term offhand. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:40:30 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > g4sra via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:16:31 + > > > [...] > > O! > > Makes perfect sense now. Thanks g4sra and spiralofhope. That's a good > idea, although one screenfull sounds

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:04:17 +0100 Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 13:55 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > ... at least we don't describe things as male or > female as some of the European languages do. We're starting to. There's this push that "man" doesn't mean "human". ___

Re: [DNG] Marker

2021-07-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 18:10:34 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > This email was to mark the point I got to in my outline of everything > that's been said in the DNG software authoring standards, because my > email client (claws-mail) doesn't have a bookmarking capability, as > far as I know. I also use Cl

[DNG] Documentation, pseudocode, code (was: Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed)

2021-07-30 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 23:31:39 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:10:24 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > > I ofter predocument -- explain what my code is intended to do > > before I write it. > > ...and what a lot of bug hunters would wanna have handy to answer the > "What t

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-08-07 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 07 Aug 2021 16:21:47 +0930 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > On 30.07.21 11:28, spiralofhope wrote:> > > I also mean that if there are any complex ideas or words, those can > > be explained in separate specific-documentation in the same way that > > code does it. &

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-08-08 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 17:02:17 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Wikis are often backed by revision management to make it asy for > administrators to bck out of spam. > To make sure they are backed up, use a distributed revivion management > system and make sure there are multiple repositories. The probl

Re: [DNG] Are .udeb files also to be installed after a source build?

2021-08-08 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 11:06:01 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > That was quite common on Sharp Zaurus :) Gasp! I still have mine. :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] malfunctioning graphical application

2021-08-15 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:58:34 +0200 Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > As it stand, aisleriot is part of the gnome suite and thus depends on > GTK3. Maybe something in the framework changed that does not support > your system anymore. Oh my god if this turns out to be the case I will laugh so damn

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, > was really not worth running.  I've been interested in it because of promises of eliminating screen tearing when watching videos. I don't know if that's been imp

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide

2021-09-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:26:52 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I'm a little afraid that people with insufficient knowledge, or with > political agendas, will water it down with bullshit. Is this the problem, and only problem, you want to solve? Is this a problem that _needs_ to be solved? > Only skill

Re: [DNG] Living Dangerously (was: Review of documentation needed)

2021-09-24 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:16:21 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > A rookie sysadmin mistake is to take backups but never ever do a test > restore to ensure they are OK. Can confirm. I had a backup persistency file which felt "old" when I tried using it. Backups seemed to be going impressively fast; su

[DNG] [OT] Twitch source code leak

2021-10-06 Thread spiralofhope
To signal boost, because "lol proprietary services": https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-entirety-of-twitch-has-reportedly-been-leaked/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/6/22712250/twitch-hack-leak-data-streamer-revenue-steam-competitor https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/6/22712365/twitch-da

[DNG] [OT] Twitch and 2FA (TOTP)

2021-10-06 Thread spiralofhope
Sortof-related to the Twitch security concerns.. I keep separate passwords for every website, and looked into two-factor authentication, with a one time code, using KeePassXC [1]. - Twitch only supplies a QR code - KeePassXC cannot use a QR code - I happen to have a phone and can use SecScanQR [

Re: [DNG] [OT] Twitch and 2FA (TOTP)

2021-10-07 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 11:31:16 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > Something very important is implied there, and probably only a few > will notice it: there is a requirement for a smartphone. I agree. I'm also getting text messages for 2FA for a lot of things, for some more security.. but I hav

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? (was: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!)

2021-10-18 Thread spiralofhope
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) For me I've only had a few offline custom scripts in: $HOME/live/path If I thought about it further, I'd probably make it something more obvious, like: $HOME/live/scripts/sh/in-path Since I

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-23 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 19:22:57 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > For a *Personal Computer*, $HOME is a zoo, and I either have to live > with it, reorganize it only to get broken again with the next major > upgrade, or violate FHS. Right from the beginning, I've always thought of $HOME as the place where m

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

2021-10-26 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:15:15 -0400 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > I'll have to replace the RAM, I guess.  Or find out what memory bus > is failing. I know this sounds odd, but I had memory errors galore which were solved by a new power supply. Apparently a jackass flipping breakers off and on qu

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

2021-10-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:49:20 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Took a while to get them to play nice. Seems that only one > configuration of sticks in the 4 slots would work. Hardware . . . > grr . . . When there's a problem, the hardware guys blame software, and the software guys blame har

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED

2021-10-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:15:13 -0400 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > Machine works fine now, running devuan ascii. That's good news. I guess memory can "wear out", but hopefully the memory wasn't damaged by some fault in the motherboard or power. I hope your new memory is safe. __

Re: [DNG] WAY OFFTOPIC: Idiot electricians: was: Is it dead yet?

2021-10-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:20:22 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > It's the kind of grudge you can keep for 42 years. > ... > > Pay up, guys, wherever you are. Oh god, now I have to add to the story time. That same guy who was flipping a breaker was doing it so fast that sometimes my system wouldn't even

Re: [DNG] suspicious firefox behaviour

2019-02-02 Thread spiralofhope
On 2019-01-30 18:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: So I ask: Why should firefox need to access the net to look at the hard drive in the laptop. Don't several web browsers have a "feature" to check that every visited URL is "safe"? Maybe there's a bug where yours attempts to report your visited URL wh

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-06-12 Thread spiralofhope
On 2019-05-28 15:53, Rick Moen wrote: [1] Last I heard, Microsoft OSes had nothing quite like a symlink, which was one reason why Cygwin was a bit of a kludge. (They may have fixed that; I wouldn't know ... Yes, they are possible. Notes: https://blog.spiralofhope.com/?p=13539 Tested in

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-06-15 Thread spiralofhope
On 2019-06-14 10:28, Mark Rousell wrote: Although your notes are all about command line, you might like to add a link for this handy shell extension to your notes: Link Shell Extension Done, thanks. __

Re: [DNG] Firefox-esr freezes ASCII

2019-07-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 06:24:56 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > What I do when it starts to slow down is ctrl-alt-F2, log in and > start killing programs. Thunderbird is usually on that kill list, > because it takes a lot of ram, too. If I wait too long to do that, it > freezes. At some point, even

Re: [DNG] What do you think of Wayland?

2019-07-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:53:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > What do you think of Wayland? I hear Buster now defaults to Wayland. I had been waiting for it to come out into mainstream use for some time, because of its supposed solutions to video playback screen tearing issues. I've always assumed Dev

Re: [DNG] removed encrypted file system? was date of publication of beowulf

2019-07-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:41:18 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from > Buster. http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-928956-Document-removal-of-ecryptfs-utils-from-Buster-td4512502.html https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765854 systemd-user do

Re: [DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

2019-07-12 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:07:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I loosely attach my mouse to my stationary bike in such a way that the > mouse's LED shines on the stationary bike's belt, building up entropy. > Within 10 seconds boot begins! I would prefer a steam car-style hand crank. I smell a Kickstart

Re: [DNG] EvilGnome spyware

2019-07-18 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:28:25 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > https://thehackernews.com/2019/07/linux-gnome-spyware.html Since the keylogging functionality was unimplemented, I was reminded of a point of trivia. With the microphone or in combination with the screen grabs, a sort of tempest atta

Re: [DNG] INJ - Init Freedom inJector (was: cannot exist without the help of Debian)

2019-11-22 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:31:25 +0100 viverna wrote: > I propose this: a script called INJ - Init Freedom inJector > > I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init > run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. > > I'm writing a simple script that in

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-19 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 03:01:22 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Predatory Interdependency This language reminds me of the old Microsoft "Embrace, extend, and extinguish"[1] topic. -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish ___ Dn

Re: [DNG] :-) Don't get into a pissing contest with Rick Moen

2019-12-25 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:27:00 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > If you make a valid point and it > gets argued, then argue until it stops or your argument (or theirs) is > falling on death ears ... or you just give up, then move on. > Although I don't expect to win pissing contests (especial

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists (was: Can we fix this DMARC thing?)

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:47:49 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Ergo, often one of the places mailing > lists first notice delivery problems owing to aggressive DMARC > policies is among subscribers receiving their subscription mail on > GMail, who suddenly aren't getting some mailing list traffic, report

[DNG] [OT] Louis Rossmann (was Catching up)

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 04:00:48 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Some here might be aware of Louis Rossmann I am in particular. He was a pure Linux user for the longest time, but abandoned it to great success and with no regrets. I engaged him on this topic a little after his transition and

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs > Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement? I wasn't familiar with the term "Halloween Code". Is this a reference to Microsoft's internal strategy memorand

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2020-01-03 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:30:28 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Because GMail > enforces at the time of receipt the declared DMARC policies of what > is asserted to be the source domain of an arriving mail, and because > yahoo.com has an r=reject DMARC policy and its declared roster of > authorised origins

Re: [DNG] systemd breaking linuxcnc ...

2020-01-28 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:46:56 + Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote: > some people are passionately convinced that non-local time is a > misfeature *glares at satellites* ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [DNG] Embrace extend and extinguish (was: Devuan /etc/os-relase - no VERSION info?)

2020-02-01 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 16:17:08 +0100 viverna wrote: > I think that Poettering will shift it in the future to binary file > and an command like systemd-read-binary-os-release to read it... I just died a little inside.. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.o

Re: [DNG] Terrible reporting / puff piece about systemd

2020-02-03 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 02:11:33 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > https://fossforce.com/2020/02/the-verdict-on-systemd-is-in/ > Critics claimed systemd’s centralized controls violate the Unix > philosophy of using one small program for a single, limited purpose. Claimed? Isn't this an object

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-25 Thread spiralofhope
u get to environments with 3D windowing effects and the like. I don't think a desktop environment would have any impact on your choice of applications. I've also run without pulseaudio and most of your applications with no difficulty. (Though I'm not familiar with icc color management

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-25 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:44:10 +0100 Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > Do you drink beer or wine, Pepsi or Coke? Same thing. emacs or vi, it's all text. ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-03-01 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 04:12:07 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > OpenBox, which I consider the best of the bunch if you don't need a > panel My vote is for fbpanel or lxpanel. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman

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