an and Ubuntu
will badly need to start walking this route. Perhaps Devuan is the right
thing to do right now, perhaps it could have even been done a couple
years earlier...
however now, looking forward to install Devuan 1.0 in 2015.
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Ha!* Beat'em to it with vdev, and we didn't have to replace PID 1 either.
>-Jude
cheers Jude! these are nice features and can come useful if substituting
PID1 is not involved. I'm spending some time to study Roger's schroot
these days and see lots
and have them built and published on our
package repository. From there we can all run experiments and
contemplate the results.
Its a matter of days now
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s minimalism.
In-between update: I'm making remarkable progress on a SDK for Devuan
package development. We are getting close to the alpha. More news soon.
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various settings and builds I'd like to go for +devuanX as you are
suggesting.
For instance the debian/changelog of xfce4-session:
xfce4-session (4.10.1-10)
becomes:
xfce4-session (4.10.1-10+devuan1)
Lets settle this as a standard for Devuan. Again thanks for your help
here a
nd, icon set and color set)
Invite your designer friends to participate! :^)
Submissions are still open.
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d baking mechanism.
My guess now is that we'll have i386 and amd64 as available
architectures for a start and arm will come slightly later.
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hi,
A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo survey here
https://it.surveymonkey.com/s/PJT8T3Q
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/08/2015 07:55 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > We had many logo submissions as one can see here
> > http://without-syste
and wiki a good workflow can be established.
>No management, just talking about who's on what with the
>restriction of providing open source assets (ex: icons, research,
> etc.) in a repository, all under Creative Commons, reusable by
>others.
agree.
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y imported
automatically creates a new git branch for the new version, allowing
maintainers to examine the difference and merge by hand.
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current way Debian handles it? I'm not really sure how to
read files like /etc/grub.d/10_linux and I wonder if the *plain* grub2
syntax would be much simplier than that.
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we could also sell Devuan pre-installed RPIs
from our website. Please everyone keep your eyes peeled for such
opportunitites, I'm not aware of anyone doing this ATM, but I'm talking
about it with friends in the Arduino company already.
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and. I hope Roger Leigh will be
happy to see that we made a good use of his handy creation schroot.
hack on!
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Gravis wrote:
> be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made.
I can't resist but spoiling the news that Nextime has bought two rather
big ARM machines to compile our packages natively on those :^) being put
in rackspaces as we speak. Hack on!
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for the BPI
A20, after making sure Devuan is a good base for it.
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s, very nice read that all future
Devuan developers should make.
please don't mind the waterfall of answers from the trolley type, we are
struggling to apply a reasonable lax moderation to this list.
best wishes
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Hi Jaromil, Thank you for clarifying.* I'm sorry if I'm asking
>questions too early ;)
no problem, you are helping me to choose the answers and anyone reading
to figure out.
>*I'll give it another try when you feel lik
dear Steve,
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
> Summarizing the most important point I'm trying to make: In my opinion
> separating philosophy and legitimate and reasonable user preference
> discussions from coding discussions would be a big mistake.
I really agree with this. That's mostl
cient with that and dislike moderating people.
kindly relying on everyone good sense in distinguishing and in patiently
ignoring and most importantly not feeding trolls :^)
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disclaimer:
the last time I've looked into this it was about 10 years ago
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
> That's good news, because on Manjaro and CentOS, *U*dev changes the
> screen resolution.
I suspect that is because it may be loading the framebuffer driver?
I also hate when it ha
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> Such discussions can be productive if they remains civilized, and does not
> distract from the overall work of the project. If my recent discussion with
> Steve Litt about C, etc has been considered a distraction, I will be happy to
> remove it to pri
hi Jack, Isaac,
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev.
> And evdev requires libudev. There is a evdev fork that works with
> libsysdev tho: https://github.com/idunham/xf86-input-evdev
I'm curious to read Nextime's opini
e mods here: https://git.devuan.org/groups/packages-base
and packed with the SDK https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk
happy hacking
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rd to Jude's suggestions for 1 and 3. For 2 is just a
matter of having gvfs recompiled. 4 may be solved by Dimkr's LoginKit if
he makes it, or we may have to keep the systemd-login daemon around for
a little longer.
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, Alberto Zuin - Liste wrote:
> Hi Jaromil,
> thank you for the gift!
and thank you for the giftlab! <3
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> I'm wondering what /etc/apt/sources.list looks like; I've tried pointing
> mine at
> deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan jessie main
that is not yet ready, thats why is called pre-alpha : )
you can use debians to install more sw to test
mate is pret
hi
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, jo...@trash-mail.com wrote:
>As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next
>Linux release 4.0 instead of 3.20. Many people have been wondering
>why, but
yea read that back a year ago. makes sense.
>there is one quite radical feature hid
On 15 February 2015 17:49:54 GMT+00:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
>http://slashdot.org/submission/4203115/removing-libsystemd0-from-a-live-running-debian-system
>
>if anyone would like to help get the word out, as a way to actively
>engage more developers and end-users to give them th
dear Nuno,
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Assuming i don't get moderated out (unlike the resident troll),
the reason why your emails are arriving delayed is due to your email
configuration: your Sender header address may not be the same address
you subscribed, or so. sorry I didn'
hey thanks everyone I actually didnt know the --enable-kvm Switch was such an
improvement :-) this will make the development process snappier
feedback on how the pre alpha feels is welcome, we shall work on making a few
things better, looking fwd to dimkr input if we can already get around login
TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their
technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for
Devuan's future too.
with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for
the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's
On February 17, 2015 10:41:12 PM GMT+01:00, Neo Futur wrote:
>> Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been able
>> to completely read any of his posts.
>its more than just a question, but you probably want :
>
>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
>
>(
ctly built packages would be ready to
use from the Devuan repository, making it much easier for people to test
and give you feedback.
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made of code, obviously.
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On 21 February 2015 06:13:29 CET, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
>
>On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner
>wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely
>with
>> LoginKit inst
hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get
started at it:
how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show?
this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing to
understand such an
important architectural aspect of a dist
only fallback to X / legacy code paths in exceptional
situations.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744764
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
> I must confess I discovered ZeroMQ recently; it looks like the
> thing the programmer always needed since the advent of networking.
> I was blaming myself for not having used it in a
> multi-host+multi-language project started 7 years ago,
dear Jonathan,
you have very good concerns on usability. After Devuan 1.0 we might be
able to quick fix desktop behaviour, I bet many developers involved will
go do respins and blends.
however, for what concerns us here and at least until the Devuan 1.0
release (which is a base system) you might
hi Jude,
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Hey everyone,
>In keeping with the request to give more frequent status updates on
>development, here's where things stand now with vdev.
many thanks!
one quick q (sry if I don't answer it myself looking at the code...)
>(1) Cr
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 01:19:04PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 01:04:05PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ста Деюс
> > > wrote:
> > > > But, at the first, what is planned to perform to protect «D
on reflects the current phase of the progress rather than
more ideals than those we already stated in the public and that also
raised some educated skepticism and criticism as they weren't yet based
on concrete achievements.
Said that, I hope this message does not discourage you, but he
ice between wicd and connman is rich enough for
now.
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hi David,
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, David Harrison wrote:
> After a long chat with a couple of developers on the #xfce channel,
thanks!
> it seems they have no plans to introduce hard systemd dependencies.
good news :^)
> Consolekit2 is a fork maintained independently of Xfce by one of
> their te
On 26 February 2015 01:21:07 CET, Neo Futur wrote:
>>> That leaves the 2% benefit of cgroups, whose benefit boils down to,
>and anyway openrc supports cgroups ;)
>( my 2 cents : and should be used in future versions of devuan ;)
I agree with this and hope OpenRC keeps supporting Linux without i
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
>Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?
perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux
waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner,
we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd
hooligans will
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
>Thanks Jaromil,
>
>We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
>and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
>pay).
we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as
n? What about people
> sharing a proxy? "Sorry, you already voted!" "N!"
yep that's obvious to many I guess :^) that's why is called poll or
survey not vote.
> Anyway, jaromil, please don't waste a cent to allow a larger survey.
OK
> Martijn seems to ha
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, etech3 wrote:
> +1 hendrik
yes, we will not cover up boot with framebuffer stuff for sure.
so to say
Devuan is sugar-free and doesn't makes your computer fat :^)
> May I suggest some timeline milestones here (which I know is around
> to the Devs). I for one would look forw
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
> > classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
>
> No. The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some
> monitors. Bad default.
AFAIK it was there exac
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>Ok, that sounds like a plan.
>
>But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate?
It will be Xfce4, since Mate is somehow too big.
Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is
hi Didier,
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
> It seems we will have to wait a little for Mate, and maybe also
> for all the lightweight tiled DE's.
we'll likely support all lightweight desktops just out of the box, I
doubt they have hard dependencies on systemd. Enlightnement perhap
tical, poetic, alternative practices?
As a cherry on top there is a link to somehting I did not know it existed - and
it's awesome! the Livermore California's Longest Burning Light Bulb!
http://www.centennialbulb.org burning since 114 years now without interruption!
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On 28 February 2015 16:19:58 CET, Svante Signell
wrote:
>On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 09:45 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>>
>> I read the Debian installer mailing list since I upgraded to Jessie
>> early and had huge difficulties. Yes, there are currently many
>> gotchas. There's apparently a bug
DE developments which are spawning daemons
like there is no tomorrow, polluting the process tree and making it very
difficult to know what is what...
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dear Hendrik,
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
> primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
>
> I could not get manual partitioning to leave the existing partitions
> alone and install devuan to secondary parti
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Interesting. I've used the Debian installer before, I think in the
> time of wheezy, and it worked with existing partitions. Could sticking
> systemd into it have broken their partitioning? Did they really put
> systemd into the installer??
systemd
hi Tom,
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Tom Collins wrote:
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
not a problem I'd say. There are plenty of userland applications out
there that have support for systemd and we can be ju
hi Sisyphus,
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015, sisyphus wrote:
> Question: Is there an rss feed with which to follow the "Devuan
> Weekly News" ? For those of us who rely on newsbeuter...
yes http://lists.devuan.org/dwn/atom.xml
just being setted up these days, unfortunately due to some adjustements
it got
On March 4, 2015 11:10:24 PM GMT+01:00, Robert Storey
wrote:
>Quite frankly, I always thought it was rather lame to name Debian
>releases
>after the toys in Toy Story. Then again, I thought the movie was lame
>too.
Yes!!! me too!!!
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On 2015-03-05 13:55, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Martijn Dekkers
wrote:
can we keep politics off this list please.
+1
+1
BTW - as people here already know here - we assumed a fairly defensive
position towards trolls on this list and the DEFCON hasn't changed
from
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Mutt is on my todo-stack
in case you fancy an out-of-the box setup of msmtp, fetchmail, mutt and
notmuch search over maildirs plus abook integration, have a look at
https://www.dyne.org/software/jaro-mail :^)
I certainly plan to package it for Devuan.
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Ста Деюс wrote:
> В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100
> x...@openmailbox.org пишет:
>
> > I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I
> > can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with
> > sketches for your consideration. There are a lo
hi Karl, Gravis,
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Gravis:
> > replace whatever you added with this line:
> > deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ unstable main
> > contrib non-free
> >
> > the run apt-get update. it should complain:
> > W: GPG error: http://pa
On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur wrote:
>> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it,
>> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be
>> attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official
>> support would be so great!
>
>https
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, Luke Diamand wrote:
> Is there anything you need help with on this?
later on yes, mirroring and perhaps hosting Jenkins builder arms like
Martijn is already doing I believe. However Nextime will have more
informations and we will have instructions for various levels of
partic
es following your guides: last time I've used
grsecurity was long time ago, before I gave up the maintainance of
dyne.org servers to more volunteers. Wondering how much has changed in
10 years or so.
> If that is the space that Jaromil is talking about? (I can log in, I
> also posted my
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, hellekin wrote:
> GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables
> single packet port knocking [0], thwarting common scanning attacks. I
> would love to see this running on Devuan. Parabola GNU/Linux was the
> first distro to deploy it, and I've been u
grant
website download section - then type into a terminal:
mkdir ~/vagrant && cd ~/vagrant
vagrant init jaromil/devuan-alpha-i386
vagrant up
This will download and start the image into an headless virtualbox
instance. From this "box" downloaded is possible to duplicate - should
dear hellekin,
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015, hellekin wrote:
> On 03/06/15 22:11, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > vagrant init jaromil/devuan-alpha-i386
> >
> *** Nice. Can you add libvirt and/or lxc providers?
Ok! I'll keep that in mind for the next release.
Meanwhile one ca
dear Neo Futur and other members of the Devuan hardening team:
please consider the Alpha release series a minimal base you can use to
start working on the kernel patches, building them and testing them.
In fact, this release series is mostly intended to receive feedback from
developers and adjust
On 7 March 2015 15:48:18 CET, hellekin wrote:
>On 03/07/15 05:59, JeremyBekka C wrote:
>>
>> how can I get Vagrant to run in Gentoo?
>>
>*** As mentioned at [0], the way to go is to install it using Rubygems.
>
>https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-vagrant
yep. And
hi Eugene,
On 8 March 2015 13:05:42 CET, Eugene Bolshakoff wrote:
>Also, will this repos conflict with Debian?
>
>If I upgrade to Devuan Jessie (systemd-free), what should I do with
>original Debian repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list ? I should remove
>them, shouldn't I?
no, at least not at
dear Jeremy,
as written in my announcement to the list, Vagrant should be installed
from the website packages (yes, the wiki directions are wrong in suggesting
rubygems).
For other problems you encounter on running Vagrant, please ask on Gentoo
forums. Thanks for taking the time to test Devuan Al
on we will take after the 1.0
release. Ultimately I believe that the literature produced by D-CENT and
the mature tones of this discussion are even more solid than a declared
"manifesto" or "constitution" at this stage.
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just ran across the following quote, which I think the dng people
> will appreciate:
>
>
> I'm done with my desktop being someone else's research project.
> ===
ude, which ultimately was the fascist authority which
established what can be debated, something Italians remember very well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Popular_Culture
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Peter Olson wrote:
> > On March 21, 2015 at 6:36 PM Robert Storey
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hopefully, it's just a rumor, though it sounds real.
> >
> > Indeed, I've been wondering why RMS hasn't commented on systemd long
> > ago when it became obvious that it would effectively du
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:39:11PM +0100, devuan...@spamgourmet.net wrote:
> > RMS admits that he wrote GCC as an interdependent hairball, simply to
> > make it impossible to reuse parts of it in commercial applications. So
> > I doubt that RMS will end up con
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, devuan...@spamgourmet.net wrote:
> I did argue for some of things I think are sensible, just like
> everybody else here. All of them can be implemented _without_ systemd
> (and I have or had them running that way). Yes, one of the ideas I
> like was first proposed by Lennart, b
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 22 Mar 22:09 -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
> > > On March 22, 2015 at 6:29 AM Jaromil wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Peter Olson wrote:
> > >
> > > > RMS didn't call me a troll,
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Mark R. White
> wrote:
> >
> > Just to be clear: I've seen a lot of cross talk about the
> > possibility of systemd being put into Devuan via a sandbox or even
> > having the systemd API written in. Is it safe to assum
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a
>console on the Devuan vagrant image!* It creates all requisite
>device files and loads all requisite kernel drivers, both for the
>pre-boot initramfs environment (so init can moun
moreover on libudev
looking at Debian bug 735275
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735275
and the wide impact it has on upstream (nodejs, webkit, chrome etc. are
affected by the bump to libudev.1) I'd rather keep libudev.0 around as
a vdev patched version, would that be possible?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 04:47:32PM -0700, Go Linux wrote:
> >
> > A link to Revolution OS was recently posted on irc. I had never
> > seen it before. It seems that the cycle has come full circle and now
> > Devuan is going back to the future and reinven
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>It's not ready yet--it's not yet ABI-compatible with libudev (but it is
>API-compatible--Kay Sievers' tests pass when recompiled).
ACK
>Some background for the rest of the list.* I've managed to extract
>the required variables, macros, a
dear Martin,
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Bug#761658: Please do not default to using Google nameservers
tl;dr - isn't there a preseed directive to change the default?!
> Marco tagged it as "wontfix". Seriously, if I didn´t configure a
> nameserver I *mean* it. I don´t want
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Hey Isaac,
>So, I'm looking at startx here:
>*[1]http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xinit/tree/startx.cpp
>Where's the offending block of code?* Is it lines 191-200?
Looks like it.
>Looking at the commit history
>([2]http://cgit.
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >
> > [1] [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity
> > and resistance:
> >
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-September/thread
hi T.J.
On 6 April 2015 01:37:23 CEST, "T.J. Duchene" wrote:
> Fortunately, the Linux equivalents are user
>account
>based rather than system wide and can easily be cloned, modified, or if
>necessary dumped.
are you sure about this? every time I tried to port my desktop settings in
gconf to new
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
>we could perhaps tie the dev list in with notifications from jenkins,
>gitlab etc to give a good general overview of whats moving
ok, but please keep patient a little while more because the preparations
of the alpha release are in the way, once
On April 9, 2015 8:20:19 AM GMT+01:00, Martijn Dekkers
wrote:
>I am neither the first, nor will I be the last, to ask for a -dev list.
a -Dev list is there already, just not public and invite only. Even the take
over of the Kremlin was done by leaving the hangry mob outside of its gates.
>
Massimo thanks for your mail
I even contradicted myself on this damn -Dev thing that should be enough for
the most to understand I really give a frill about it.
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roject.
>
> dyne.org != devun dyne.org != VUAs
>
> dyne.org is helping VUAs and devuan with services, work, resources,
> some vuas are also in dyne ( notabily Jaromil), but please let
> separate things remain separate.
FTR I've already edited myself Devuan's wikipedi
hi,
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015, Brad Campbell wrote:
> On 09/04/15 23:56, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> >On 09/04/2015 10:37, Jaromil wrote:
> >>a -Dev list is there already, just not public and invite only.
> >
> > That's really a shame, because I would love to have acce
cheers to vdev!
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>
>I'm using it as the device manager in my copy of the alpha Vagrant image,
>and others have tested it locally (but not for booting, AFAIK).* I'm
>working on getting it to boot the the qcow2 image, which boots from LVM.
FYI an
thanks for the live images David
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, David Hare wrote:
> On 15/04/15 17:39, Franco Lanza wrote:
>
> >systemd-shim is for who don't want to have systemd in pid 1 but
> >accept other systemd components. We don't want systemd at all.
>
> +1. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/01systemd:
On April 17, 2015 6:30:12 AM GMT+02:00, hellekin wrote:
>The donations page [0] says "Next one is due by the end of March 2015."
>
>Did I miss it?
no, I am late. I'm about to do it.
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On 17 April 2015 19:07:57 CEST, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Good to know! I hadn't tried it with musl yet, but I'm glad to hear
>that
>it works with it.
both musl and uclibc are let down by systemd
its very important to help them survive the avalanche
to read all this progress on vdev is really enc
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