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> repackage more reasonably.
Also, I recall that in a default Debian install, recommended
packages are pulled in by default. A setting change makes it
possible to only pull in the package dependencies.
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> > > Also, I recall that in a default Debian install, recommended
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> key "Shift+Print" scrot -u -b
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icewm++
I found it easy to set up menus for my dad to start abiword,
mozilla, to cancel print jobs, shutdown, etc. My first
choice for
or traditional) things we are
preserving by excising systemd?
Classical Unix Architecture
Classical Unix Administration
Classical Unix Services
Classical Unix Security
Classical/traditional AASS means "you don't need to hire
special consultants, just compete
re about principles. Let's list some:
>
> - freedom of choice,
> - interchangealility of solutions to a given need,
> - reduce inter-dependencies to the strict minimum
>
> Don't know if KISS goes into details, but maybe it could inspire the
> logo.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 03:54:56PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:47:32AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Didier Kryn wrote:
> > >
> > > Le 23/02/2015 14:04, Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
> > > >On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ста Деюс
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:02:16PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png
>
> ha! it just needs words like "Linux: Strut your stuff" [?]
I thought of photoshopping in a jail out of which they are
walking.
>
using a more universal symbol. Perhaps I should try my hand
at photo-shopping, err.. gimping it.
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> > easily the "sheeple" are manipulated into going along.
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> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 12:05:32AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > > My point is that Perl and Python as system software are forced on you in
> > > a Linux distribution as a requirement in much the same way that systemd
>
Enter.
>
> My bad.
>
> > I'm wondering what happens
> > when I make a typo that happens to match the name of a program I
> > never heard of.
>
> Unless you press Enter, nothing happens after the typo, except the
> wrong list
ted sort) has diminishing returns.
> I feel that they have been overused in the Linux ecosystem as whole. My
> whole rant is really just chatting with the community and seeing if anyone
> else shares that opinion. If you don't personally, that's just fine by me.
> =)
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that automatically installs those packages.
On my system, reverse depends for pulseaudio shows such
packages as mpg123, which shouldn't have an opinion about
which audio system you use, and initramfs-tools-tcos, which
appears to have no connection with audio at all.
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> >On my system, reverse depends for pulseaudio shows such
> >packages as mpg123, which shouldn't have an opinion about
>
> But mpg123 neither
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That could be a wiki article, "Configuring Devuan to
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ooking for on a text
console, so I'll put in a mention of Nama, a fairly
versatile multitrack DAW that includes a terminal interface.
https://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html
There is a version packaged for Debian, but way stale,
better to install from CPAN or build from git
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> > > For example the localizing problem. I use tu have a locale that has the
> > > "," as decimal divider. Now, I have to writ
lief.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't mind defaulting to nano for the sake of new users, even if nano
> > > > isn't what I want to use. I know how to change the defaults. A new
> > > > user does not.
bus, my experience tells me that
> getting rid of it would involve something like the following:
(other steps)
> get rid of ALSA to get away from dbus, and use OSS with snd_mixer_oss
> and rexima.
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Perl is currently blessed/cursed with many object
frameworks, and it appears there is a lot of work finding
how to get the most benefit for the least pain. So while
it's still being hashed out, I think no one in the Perl,
Ruby or Python communities who knows how to use OOP would
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Funny, that I used xargs so many years without ever looking
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In that case, you would be better off, IMO writing to Linux Audio
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This led to losing quite a bit of fat in my system.
I'm waiting to see what breaks!
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### WARNING!! Additional settings for this service may be found in
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I'll close here. Thanks to all who are developing and working with Devuan!
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I wonder if others have encountered this issue, and
whether this is the appropriate forum for reporting it.
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> Hi Joel
> On 29/11/15 13:16, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After recently installing the i386 flavor of devuan,
> > I tried again with the amd64 version.
> >
> > This time I encou
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> If anyone wants to debate me about this, please read the preceding
> sentence, so at least you're debating a position I really took.
If you start to develop the pieces involved, it's probably
just a matter of time before they can be brought into the
distribution, again con
I, for one, prefer to avoid the churn of a continuous stream
of changes. Today it is funny to look for help on a subject,
see top responses that are systemd-specific.
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> How complicated is it to port such scripts to runit? Exim4's
> init.d script is 275 lines.
I see there is a library of scripts for runit,
although the page seems somewhat stale.
For example, exim 3 only.
http
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> > Hi Steve,
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> > How complicated is it to port such scripts to runit? Exim4's
> > init.d script is 275 lines.
> >
> > Joel
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> Hi Joel,
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> Acc
do you want to keep some of the
> other features?
Well, some study is obviously needed, since I have no idea
what those features are! So it makes sense to start with
simpler cases. .
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Also creating a new hardware recovery business.
It seems somewhat bleak. Am I overreacting?
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> https://www.akkadia.org/drepper/dsohowto.pdf
Thanks for this and other contributions! Your clear
explanations and code snippets add a lot to the (high IMO)
level of discussion here. It's a pleasure to learn more
about how various
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> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > On 08/03/16 06:45, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > Hi Devuan,
> > >
> > > I'm following the blinux mailing list, for blind users of
> > > Linux, and there is a repor
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> So supporting accessibility during
> install may be in reach.
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If you have multiple sound cards, make sure to use
the -c argument.
The choice of kernels could also make a difference,
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typical builtin soundcards.
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tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's
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As a workaround, I run Skype on my smartphone, which MS (and
their NSA buddies) can't ignore.
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> >As a suggestion for an aspiring automounter writer (or
> >reminder to self) I was thinking that if we can get a
> >sufficiently unique identifier from the device (UUID, etc.)
> >it mig
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Joel Roth wrote:
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> > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on
> > our mirrors
>
> > deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main
> > [contrib] [non-free]
>
> https didn't work o
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> > Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on
> > > our mirrors
> >
> > > deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main
> > > [contrib]
Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The devuan.org website gives these targets:
>
> deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie main
> deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main
> deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main
>
> Howe
Robert Storey wrote:
> As I mentioned in the "Beta" thread, whenever I tried to access devuan.org,
> I got a message:
>
> "This webpage is not available"
Perhaps try the following for clues:
dig devuan.org
ping devuan.org
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would allow a user to get a usable base system:
* choose one or two best-of-breed init systems to work on,
and provide infrastructure for collecting contributions
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> > Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > There's a small number of directories that are supposed to be on
> > > the root filesystem, or otherwise available during boot. I
> > > believe /etc and /bin are two of these.
>
k that will be
fraught with complexity. Perhaps some examples to follow for
each init system will be enough for packagers,
or init system advocate teams to write the necessary
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We're not the first people to think about supporting
alternative init systems. There are collections of the
init scripts already available.
https://bitbucket.org/avery_payne/supervision-scripts
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Go Linux wrote:
> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth wrote:
> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
> as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird. And I&
fsmithred wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 10:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Go Linux wrote:
> >> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth wrote:
> >> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
> >> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
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Hi,
The link provided on this page doesn't resolve:
http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu/iso/devuan-1.0-beta-minimal-unofficial-20160511_1204.iso
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Anyone have a better incantation?
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On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 06:58:15AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 05:40:57PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:52:41PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > Dear Devuaners,
> > >
> > > inspired by the recent thread about unoffici
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 07:57:54AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 08:43:09PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
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> [cut]
>
> >
> > Hi, I got it. It it possible to run from qemu? Running with
> > this vanilla command line panics with message "no work
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On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 11:20:41AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> hi Joel,
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2016, Joel Roth wrote:
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> > On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 11:43:48AM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> > > If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without
> > > ins
David Hare wrote:
> This and similar live iso's only work here in qemu with e.g. " -m 384".
>
> My hardware can't handle kvm.
Even running as root?
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On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 12:56:01PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 01:46:20AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > David Hare wrote:
> > > This and similar live iso's only work here in qemu with e.g. " -m 384".
> > >
> > > My hardw
KatolaZ wrote:
Joel Roth wrote:
> > You can also join the user to the kvm group:
> >
> > ls -l /dev/kvm
> >
> > crw-rw+ 1 root kvm 10, 232 May 11 11:02 /dev/kvm
> >
> > btw, 'c' means character mode device. Does anyone know what
> >
BUT: should there be a service "wpa_supplicant" in /etc/init.d/ ?
Actually wicd takes care of starting wpa_supplicant.
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any of us.
However, it is worth noting that among historical pirates,
governance may have been more egalitarian than, for example,
on ships of the East India Company.
> [1]. The MAFIAA[2] defines that differently.
> [2]. And here, we're cl
rges me to write to you all!
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elease.
We can suppose that isn't much research to find and exploit buffer overruns
in software except for default applications in major
applications used as defaults on major distributions and
operating systems.
Cheers,
> [1] Cf. https://github.com/data-modul/slim
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