[DNG] Chromium 55

2016-12-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi all, on my 32-bit eeePC I got Chromium 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1 but on my 64-bit installations there is still only Chromium 53 available, which has a serious bug affecting Symantec SSL certificates. Why is there no Chromium 55 as 64-bit package? https://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/chrome-53-bu

Re: [DNG] Chromium 55

2016-12-13 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi Florian, Am 13.12.2016 um 21:08 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > > Do you have the apt-listbugs package installed? No. In the meantime I have the 55 upgrade. Looks like the mirror was a bit behind. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailingli

[DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-05 Thread J. Fahrner
Hello, has someone had success in installing Devuan on Raspberry Pi? My first attempt was to upgrade from Raspbian Wheezy following this guide: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan Did not work, segmentation fault in some package installation script.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-05 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 05.02.2017 um 18:23 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > > > Both ways it worked like a charm. > Strange. Mine is a PI 1 Model B. (armhf architecture). Maybe the current packages are not compatible with that? But original Raspbian Jessie (armhf) works fine. Only Devuan has segmentation faults. -- Mit

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-05 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 05.02.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > > "Raspbian armhf" is a special build for rpi1: ARMv6 with hardfloat > support. This is the actual reason for Raspian's existence, as the > common "armhf" builds are compiled for ARMv7. ok, that explains the segmentation faults on my PI1 model B.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi

2017-02-05 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 05.02.2017 um 22:34 schrieb KatolaZ: > Because that image is an armv6 + hard float, so it works > everywhere. > > So why are the Devuan Images not compiled the same way? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/m

[DNG] Backports priority

2017-02-26 Thread J. Fahrner
According to this documentation: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ Backports should have a priority of 100 in the Release file: " /All backports are deactivated by default (i.e. the packages are pinned to 100 by using ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes in the Release files"/ This seems

Re: [DNG] Browsers

2017-02-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 23.02.2017 um 20:39 schrieb KatolaZ: > > "tabbed surf -g -e" > > and you are done. Well, you still need a good "man tabbed" and "man > surf" to get things done... What is the option "-g" for? Mine seems to not have it. According to the man page, plugins should be supported by copying them to /u

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

2017-03-08 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 08.03.2017 um 18:33 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: > > "From Firefox 52 onwards, pulseaudio is a hard requirement for sound > on linux. Alsa is unsupported and alsa code will be removed in Firefox > 54." (from - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 47056#c178 ) Pulseaudio? Not with me. :-( _

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-28 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-08-28 18:26, schrieb Edward Bartolo: XFCE 4 gives me font type/size configurability. Window Managers do not give me that functionality expecting me to spend hours upon hours ruining my eyes groping in configuration files for the relevant settings. Sure they do! Try Bunsenlabs Linux (htt

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-28 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-08-28 21:53, schrieb Steve Litt: Bear in mind that with a Window Manager, you can only adjust fonts for the windows, not the applications in side the windows. Those applications are adjustable via the adjuster program for their library: Qt or Gtk. So you have to run the adjuster program

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-19 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-19 15:00, schrieb Narcis Garcia: El 18/09/17 a les 19:45, Steve Litt ha escrit: Why in the world would you need Gnome? 1. Gnome is the desktop environment that better fits my criteria for unexperienced and normal people. 2. I select desktop software for hundreds of users, and 99% o

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-20 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-20 11:59, schrieb Narcis Garcia: I like to rely on distribution's packages and be able to open a bug when necessary about it. If Devuan's people say Gnome is not supported at all, this means I need some other way to work on this. IMHO this would be the best option for you. Why do y

Re: [DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-20 13:08, schrieb Nate Bargmann: I am still puzzled how a desktop GUI can depend on init system. Services, yes, an init, not so much. Because systemd is not only an init system, it provides a lot of services too. ___ Dng mailing list Dn

Re: [DNG] Systemd-free => Gnome-free? [Was: Re: Gnome?

2017-09-20 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-20 17:19, schrieb John Franklin: Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and rebuilt without systemd. Give it a try. Please build the gnome packages from scratch and report back with where

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-21 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-20 22:03, schrieb zap: Noscript is not on chromium or google chrome for an obvious reason. Noscript is the reason I will always use waterfox or a modified firefox over anything else. There is ScriptSafe for Chrome/Chromium which is basically the same as Noscript. Jochen

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-21 23:21, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them. I had similar issues some time ago and switched to spacefm with ud

[DNG] Problems with network-manager

2017-09-26 Thread J. Fahrner
I just tried to replace wicd with network-manager and found 3 problems: 1. gnome-keyring is needed for storing wifi passwords but was not installed. This is a missing dependency. 2. in nm-applet the ethernet network is shown as "device not managed" so I can not connect through lan cable. 3.

Re: [DNG] Problems with network-manager

2017-09-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-09-26 18:34, schrieb Florian Zieboll: Replace the entry for ethernet in your /etc/network/interfaces with just auto eth0 (vor whatever Name your device has). Sign off and sign in again. You should now be able to connect to your LAN. Its sufficient to toggle the "managed=false" line in

[DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-06 Thread J. Fahrner
Hello, I found the message "systemd-udevd[415]: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1" in my dmesg log. 1. why is there a systemd daemon? 2. why is my ethernet device renamed? I would like it as eth0 and wlan0, not eth1 and wlan1. Jochen ___ Dng mai

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-06 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi Didier, Am 2017-10-06 18:36, schrieb Didier Kryn: If you aren't satisfied witht the current numbering of your interfaces, there is a simple way to change the numbering: find the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules. You will see there is a line per known interface, containin

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-07 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-07 09:43, schrieb Florian Zieboll: From another point of view one could argue, that your device had already been unstable... why else would you have had to repair it? In this case, the modification of your "persistent-net-rules" file could be seen as (the most easy) part of a successf

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-07 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-07 11:43, schrieb Didier Kryn: EFI responds to a need for security, because, without it, it is so easy, in a few minutes, with a simple USB memory stick to steal and/or fuck-up the contents of any PC. It's a bad response because, IIUC, it is enough to have an EFI-compatible boot-lo

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-07 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-07 14:51, schrieb Simon Hobson: For everything else then there is a problem that needs solving. As I said before, this can be solved manually by adding a udev rule. There is no need to do that "automagically". Jochen ___ Dng mailing lis

[DNG] Strange interfaces vmnet1 and vmnet8 in network-manager

2017-10-08 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, I replaced wicd with network-manager on my Thinkpad T61 and now nm-applet shows me two strange interfaces which it is connected to: vmnet1 and vmnet8. Maybe these have something to do with vmware player (which I installed for running Windows on my Devuan system). How can I get rid of these

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-09 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-09 21:45, schrieb John Morris: There is. Make /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules a symlink to /dev/null and it will leave you alone. Great idea! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-16 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-07 17:23, schrieb Tobias Hunger: With UEFI the firmware just loads a efi binary with everything:-) MUCH simpler. I cannot see where UEFI boot is simple. I'm always wondering why booting an OS on PC is rocket science (try googling "grub boot problems"). Ever had an Apple Computer? C

[DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-10-29 Thread J. Fahrner
https://osseu17.sched.com/event/ByYt/replace-your-exploit-ridden-firmware-with-linux-ronald-minnich-google Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-10-30 Thread J. Fahrner
A good german article on this: https://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25289/google-will-uefi-und-management-engine-loswerden.html Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-10-31 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-10-31 16:40, schrieb Hendrik Boom: Is it still possible to use MBR boot on a GPT disk? You can install a hybrid partition table. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.d

[DNG] Thunderbird broken dependencies in security update

2017-11-01 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, there is a Thunderbird security update available in stable-security, which updates Thunderbird from version 45 to 52. The thunderbird-l10n-* packages still require version 45. apt-get output: The following packages have unmet dependencies: thunderbird-l10n-de : Depends: thunderbird (< 1:4

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-11-03 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-11-03 20:58, schrieb Edward Bartolo: If I am remember well, MS Windows (the operating system) does have a micro-kernel, but is it more efficient with an extra layer of intercommunication? Windows NT is based on DEC VMS, not a very modern OS ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler

Re: [DNG] Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-07 Thread J. Fahrner
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016, jack wrote: I have been stumped by a problem with Devuan 1-beta running on 6th generation Intel processors [i5-6200u, celeron n3050]. You can try a linux kernel from backports. Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org http

[DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, the Devuan repository is missing the latest Thunderbird language packs. Debian has version 52: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/thunderbird-l10n-de but Devuan still has version 45. Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailingli

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-11-11 11:15, schrieb KatolaZ: Just to clarify and to avoid further future confusion, the webpage at packages.debian.org that you pointed us to clearly shows "[security]" close to the package name, which means that the package is available as a security update. This means that, in order

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
This is from http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages Package: thunderbird Version: 1:52.4.0-1~deb8u1 Installed-Size: 109039 Maintainer: Carsten Schoenert Architecture: amd64 Replaces: icedove (<< 1:45.6.0-2.1~) Provides: icedove, mail-reader Depends: d

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-11-11 23:00, schrieb KatolaZ: You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or pkgmaster.devuan.org. amprolla.devuan.org is not being used for *ages* I used de.mirror.devuan.org, that links to amprolla. If this is no longer a valid mirror, you should communicate

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-11-11 23:00, schrieb KatolaZ: You must use either packages.devuan.org, or auto.mirror.devuan.org, or pkgmaster.devuan.org. auto.mirror.devuan.org makes no difference, still version 45 language packs. Please look at the package archive before you blame me! :-( Jochen

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird language packs outdated

2017-11-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-11-12 08:53, schrieb Edward Bartolo: I would remove all languages that I do not need. Certainly, you do not know 45 languages! Why do you think I have 45 languages installed? You do not need to install thunderbird-l10n-all, there is a single package for every language. For example thu

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, Am 2017-12-04 16:12, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: I am unable to mount empty /usr on jessie. Is there any workaround or should I keep some files there? Or is there any build for libgssapi-krb5-2 to keep its files in /lib? ~# ldd /sbin/mount.nfs|grep usr libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-04 17:21, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: Yes I need it for virtual machines so they won't store the same data. NFS is not the right protocol for such things. NFS is a *network* storage filesystem and behaves not like a local filesystem. Through NFS user root gets mapped to nobody o

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: "no_root_squash Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for diskless clients." NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for diskless workstations, so you cannnot expect to behave like one. Diskless workstations have also memory

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-10 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-10 23:25, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: Thanks, I should have been more precise: one with a GUI. My favourite GUI text editor is Geany. Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-11 08:43, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: Thank you; sadly this is not offered in Devuan Jessie ;-3( Sure it is. Package name is geany. https://packages.debian.org/de/jessie/geany Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mail

Re: [DNG] Trouble getting copied system to boot

2017-12-16 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-17 03:43, schrieb Hendrik Boom: Yes. Hex digit by hex digit. Of course I might have done it wrong. I will check again. Tomorrow. When I'm awake again. The easiest way solving boot problems is most often the boot repair disc. https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ Jo

[DNG] Dynamic MOTD

2017-12-19 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, I have several headless systems running Devuan Jessie, which I migrated from Debian Jessie following this guide: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-to-Devuan I placed scripts in /etc/update-motd.d and they work fine. Now I installed devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_raspi2.img

Re: [DNG] Dynamic MOTD

2017-12-19 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-19 19:00, schrieb info at smallinnovations dot nl: Hopefully this link can help you further https://ownyourbits.com/2017/04/05/customize-your-motd-login-message-in-debian-and-ubuntu/ I already tried all these hints, google find's a lot of them, but no one worked. I solved it the f

[DNG] Long boot wait after upgrade to ascii

2017-12-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, I did a dist-upgrade from Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii. Now I have a long boot wait, same message as described here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368322/long-boot-time-ssd-black-screen-with-blinking-cursor-gave-up-waiting-on-sus Some problem with initramfs and swap partition. Any

[DNG] udevd mtp-probe errors after upgrade to ascii

2017-12-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, after upgrade from Devuan Jessie to Ascii I now get the following errors during boot: [2.674021] udevd[423]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe' 'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-4 3 2': No such file or directory [2.674131] udevd[424]: failed to execute '/

Re: [DNG] Long boot wait after upgrade to ascii

2017-12-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-23 11:51, schrieb Steve Litt: How do you know it's with initramfs or swap partition? Because the message was: "Gave up waiting on suspend/resume device.". The suspend image resides in swap device. I got it working with editing /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to "RESUME=none", a

[DNG] Backlight keys no longer working on Thinkpad X230 with ASCII

2017-12-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, after upgrading to ASCII, the backlight keys are no longer working on my Thinkpad X230. Brightness is controlled by /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness, but can only set by root. The keys generate the following acpi events: video/brightnessdown BRTDN 0087 video

Re: [DNG] Long boot wait after upgrade to ascii

2017-12-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-23 16:16, schrieb Didier Kryn:     I'd be surprised the problem comes from initramfs. Not sure also there is an fstab in the initramfs. When I crafted mines, I never felt the need for an fstab, execept,for conveniency, an fstab generated on the fly. Initramfs is contained in /boot/vml

[DNG] GTK

2017-12-24 Thread J. Fahrner
Why I hate Gnome: https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-themes "debian/control: mark package as incompatible with gtk3 >= 3.20" :-( ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Broken package version numbers in ascii

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
After upgrading from Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii, I found that some packages were not properly upgraded because of wrong version numbers. Example: desktop-base is version 1:0.99 in ascii, but had a higher version number in Jessie before, so the dist-upgrade kept the Jessie version. I cleane

Re: [DNG] Broken package version numbers in ascii

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-26 17:37, schrieb J. Fahrner: I now have a clean ascii install without orphaned packages. But now I'm missing some Devuan theme files, like grub oder slim theme. Which package contains the Devuan theme files in ascii? I found my old netbook which yet has Jessie installed

[DNG] eudev missing dependency

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, udevd calls mtp-probe: udevd[436]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe' 'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-4 3 2': No such file or directory mtp-probe is contained in libmtp-runtime, so eudev should have a dependency to libmtp-runtime. Jochen _

[DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, is there some problem with the naming of network interfaces? I have the following lines in my boot log: Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0 Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0 Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL fa

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-26 19:47, schrieb Svante Signell: Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network  interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0 Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0 Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL failed. Please state which version of eudev you have installed

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-26 19:41, schrieb Miroslav Rovis: What ethers you have? Try: # ip l show $ ip l show 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAU

Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-26 23:56, schrieb Ralph Ronnquist: Yes, eudev has code to test the interfaces from 80-ifupdown.rules, which causes /lib/idev/ifupdown-hotplug to run, and that will use ifquery for checking whether the interface concerned has an allow-hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces. Thanks for tha

[DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, after upgrading to Ascii I have the following failure on boot. Any ideas what's causing this? Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module lp. Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module ppdev. Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module parport_pc. Wed Dec 2

Re: [DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-27 07:57, schrieb Ralph Ronnquist: Probably you have the dangling link /etc/rcS.d/S11udev-finish (or similar), which would be a remnant from the udev package, and it should have been removed when udev was removed. Possibly there is also a dangling /etc/rcS.d/S02udev. It's unclear to

Re: [DNG] eudev missing dependency

2017-12-27 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-27 16:28, schrieb Svante Signell: I'm not so sure we should add that dependency, Can you explain why? When udevd calls mtp-probe in it's default configuration, then it must be assured that mtp-probe is present. Anything else is a bug. ___

Re: [DNG] eudev missing dependency

2017-12-27 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-27 16:34, schrieb KatolaZ: We *MUST* *NOT* include that dependency, since that file comes from a library that has nothing to do with the functionalities offered by udev/eudev. Any package can install scripts under /lib/udev/, and the package that install them is responsible for their r

Re: [DNG] ASCII doesn't suspend when closing lid

2017-12-28 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-28 11:05, schrieb Didier Kryn:     My HP EliteBook running ASCII doesn't suspend when I close the lid. It used to do with Debian Wheezy. I had the same problem when switching from Debian to Devuan. Solution is easy: You need the package "acpid". Look what events are triggered when

Re: [DNG] ASCII doesn't suspend when closing lid

2017-12-28 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-28 13:36, schrieb Didier Kryn:     This file doesn't exist, Yes, I created that myself. but there is a file just called lidbtn, which contains the following: # /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn Is this a leftover from a former installation? Can you look if this is provide

Re: [DNG] Summary of investigations on Lid open/close in ASCII

2017-12-28 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-28 15:31, schrieb Didier Kryn:     Now I have the following options:     1) Try to obtain something from xfce4-power-manager. I'm not ready to debug the dbus nightmare. It might be that the package dbus-user-session is necessary. But this one depends on libpam-systemd and therefore i

Re: [DNG] Summary of investigations on Lid open/close in ASCII. A simple solution

2017-12-29 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-29 10:50, schrieb Antony Stone: Did the machine wake up again on opening the lid under Debian Wheezy or did you have to operate the power button there as well? This sounds like a hardware feature of the particular laptop to me. My observation is also, that waking up through openin

Re: [DNG] Summary of investigations on Lid open/close in ASCII. A simple solution

2017-12-29 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-29 12:27, schrieb Didier Kryn:     Actualy xscreensaver also prevents the suspend. I didn't notice the first time because it seems to take a logout-login before the presence of the daemon to be noticed.     There is a hackish workaround: comment the following 3 lines in /etc/acpi/lid.

Re: [DNG] Summary of investigations on Lid open/close in ASCII. A simple solution

2017-12-29 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-29 15:35, schrieb Didier Kryn:     Sure, but it comes just naked with essentially the right-click to offer you to open a terminal emulator. That's not a very productive way of working, compared to xfce4's panel. You don't need to start with only X11 and xterm. Use openbox, tint2, sp

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-30 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-29 21:35, schrieb Adam Borowski: resize2fs -b $DEV tune2fs -O metadata_csum $DEV fsck.ext4 -D $DEV According to this wiki: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums should we also use option journal_checksum on mount? Jochen

Re: [DNG] ext4 checksums was: Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-30 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-29 21:35, schrieb Adam Borowski: > resize2fs -b $DEV > tune2fs -O metadata_csum $DEV > fsck.ext4 -D $DEV One thing is unclear to me. Reading this wiki: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums They say: * Install Linux 3.6+ and e2fsprogs 1.43-WIP.

[DNG] Bad package versions in ascii

2018-01-01 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, there are several packages in ascii with bad package versions. In later releases versions should NEVER be lower than in former releases. Package versions have to be ascending. On my system the following packages were not upgraded because of bad versions: Package Jessie As

Re: [DNG] Sakura: was ROXterm flickers in ascii

2018-01-03 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-03 16:21, schrieb Steve Litt: Irrwahn, thanks for turning me on to Sakura. I'll be using it a lot in the future. Sakura is a great terminal emulator with abyssmal documentation. Any advantages over lxterminal? Jochen ___ Dng mailing lis

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

2018-01-20 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-20 20:33, schrieb Hendrik Boom: I gather from the extracts provided by the spam sites Google thinks are relevant to devuan that there is a devuan for the Raspberry Pi. Where do I find it? How do I install it? Can I install and try out Ascii? or just Jessie? I had no luck with the

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

2018-01-20 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-20 23:27, schrieb Hendrik Boom: deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie rpi deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/m

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

2018-01-21 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-21 22:19, schrieb Hendrik Boom: /etc/apt/sources.list shows mine is based on jessie. That's pretty definitive. I think I'll cross over to Devuan first, then upgrade to ascii. Fine. And don't forget to change deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie rpi into deb

Re: [DNG] popupmenu: a new dynamic menu in Gtk2 for WMs

2018-01-22 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-22 15:00, schrieb aitor_czr: > Here you are a screenshot: > > https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/popupmenu/blob/master/screenshot.png Isn't it the same as the openbox pipemenu in package "openbox-menu"?___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] popupmenu: a new dynamic menu in Gtk2 for WMs

2018-01-22 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-22 17:50, schrieb aitor_czr: > As i explained to parazyd in the IRC channel, i'll add a LICENSE file because > it uses some pieces of code from openbox-menu and mygtkmenu, giving credits > to the authors. Ok, but I wonder whether there are advantages over openbox-menu? Jochen__

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3 -- dependency hell

2018-01-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-23 19:35, schrieb Hendrik Boom: To get X working on my Devuanized reespberry pi I need to install xserver-xorg-video-fbdev and -fbturbo. Debian Stretch has xserver-xorg-video-fbdev: https://packages.debian.org/de/stretch/xserver-xorg-video-fbdev But what is xserver-xorg-video-fbturb

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3 -- dependency hell

2018-01-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-23 21:32, schrieb J. Fahrner: But what is xserver-xorg-video-fbturbo? Is that from rpi packages? You can try adding Debian Multimedia: https://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/sid/main/binary-arm64/package/xserver-xorg-video-fbturbo ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] History function in Synaptic

2018-01-24 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-01-24 18:15, schrieb goli...@dyne.org: Now only the cursor directory is disabled so everything else is working properly. What do you mean with "cursor directory disabled"? Remove it? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mail

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-11 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-11 12:41, schrieb Tom: # apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-11 20:06, schrieb KatolaZ: The error is there, and exists only if you have never had udev installed. We know how to get around that. Will be fixing that shortly. The best way forward is to just symlink /etc/init.d/eudev to /etc/init.d/udev. This will solve the problem. One of my syst

[DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi, I have a small python gui script rebooting,shutdown,suspend. This sends dbus messages to consolekit and is no longer working since a recent update. Rebooting is done as: $ dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest='org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freede

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 16:05, schrieb Hleb Valoshka: What Devuan version do you run? Ascii, don't you? Yes, ascii. Show output of dpkg -l | grep libpolkit-backend $ dpkg -l | fgrep libpolkit-backend rc libpolkit-backend-1-0:i3860.105-9+devuan1 i386 PolicyKit b

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 16:04, schrieb Irrwahn: Assuming you are on an ASCII system: Yes. I strongly suspect this is linked to the recent addition of elogind to the repositories and the consequential changes to policykit. In order to regain "classic" consolekit operation you may try the following reci

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 03:21, schrieb Alessandro Selli: You will probably be able to work out this problem issuing the following command: apt-get -y install libpolkit-agent-1-0 policykit-1 That worked, but throws some errors: Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state infor

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 16:35, schrieb Irrwahn: $ dpkg -l | fgrep libpolkit-backend rc libpolkit-backend-1-0:i3860.105-9+devuan1 i386 PolicyKit backend API ii libpolkit-backend-1-0-systemd:i3860.105-18+devuan2.4 ^ Now, there's your problem! :

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 18:12, schrieb KatolaZ: On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 06:07:01PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: Am 2018-02-12 03:21, schrieb Alessandro Selli: > You will probably be able to work out this problem issuing the following >command: > >apt-get -y install libpolkit-agent-1-0 policyk

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 16:35, schrieb Irrwahn: ii libpolkit-backend-1-0-systemd:i3860.105-18+devuan2.4 ^ Now, there's your problem! :) You should have one of: libpolkit-backend-1-0-elogind or, probably more fittingly in your case: libpolkit-backend-

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

2018-02-12 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-12 16:35, schrieb Irrwahn: You should have one of: libpolkit-backend-1-0-elogind or, probably more fittingly in your case: libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit installed. Now I tried both, and both give me working shutdown/reboot/suspend. What's the prefered backend for D

[DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

2018-02-13 Thread J. Fahrner
My .xsession-errors has the following warning dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument Any ideas what's causing this? Is there some wrong config file around? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyn

Re: [DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

2018-02-13 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-13 13:30, schrieb J. Fahrner: My .xsession-errors has the following warning dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument Any ideas what's causing this? Is there some wrong config file around? Found 2 files in /etc/X11/Xsess

Re: [DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

2018-02-13 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-13 13:50, schrieb Irrwahn: That message can safely be ignored. This is caused by the dbus startup from script(s) /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ . It basically means that dbus did not find systemd upon launch, which is to be expected on a Devuan system that by definition comes w/o systemd. I

[DNG] udev-finish ... failed!

2018-02-13 Thread J. Fahrner
I have the following boot error on ascii: startpar: service(s) returned failure: udev udev-finish ... failed! Is there a way to debug the failure? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-14 11:47, schrieb Didier Kryn:     After the upgrade, the shutdown and reboot buttons in xfce just do the same as the button to terminate the session. No way to shutdown/reboot other than loging in as root. Looks like the same problem I had. If you have libpolkit-backend-systemd and

Re: [DNG] mount the USB memories in Ascii

2018-02-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-14 14:29, schrieb Ismael L. Donis Garcia: > What should I configure so that a normal user can mount the USB memories? See Irrwahns mail "IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade."___ Dng mailing list Dng@li

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

2018-02-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-14 15:06, schrieb Didier Kryn:     If elogind is to be Devuan's default, then, for consistency, another DM than slim should be the default, and task-xfce-desktop should be modified acordingly. There is no default, you can use what you want (consolekit/elogind). Since lightdm does not

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

2018-02-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-02-14 17:05, schrieb Didier Kryn: Everything works fine, except slim has lost its beautifull background. Now its background is just grey. Yout /etc/slim.conf should have a line current_theme desktop-slim-theme And the theme files are in package desktop-base. _

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