On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 07:39:56PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> I have already implicitly replied to this question before you even
> answered it (in the gtk+3 thread).
>
> If you don't mind minimal stuff (i.e., a browser that just browse the
> WWW and downloads files on request), then surf+tabbed is
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 09:45:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:31:08 -0500, Steve wrote in message
> <20170225203108.2838a...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:34:50 -0500
> > Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > > And sp
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 06:36:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:09:15 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 09:45:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:31:08 -0500, Steve wrote in message
>
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote:
> heads 0.0 is out!
> It finally happened and it's not vaporware!
It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a VM or bare hardware
from USB, but...
What Is It?
-- hendrik
>
> heads 0.0 is a preview live CD of what heads is going to be a
On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:52:41AM -0600, ja...@beau.org wrote:
> > And then there's what Jamie said: By all being private, we make the
> > truly private stand out less. I haven't yet gotten to the point of
> > using privacy I don't need personally, as is obvious by this unsigned
> > email.
>
> >
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scritto:
> > This is a follow up to this old thread:
> > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161002.124357.7c39d049.en.html
> >
> > According to this post on FDN -
> > http://forums.debi
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 06:44:59PM -0500, in discussion on
firefox, alsa, pulseaudio and Devuan, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Devuan is Linux, Linux is free software, and the Android OS, whatever
> it's called, is definitely not free software. Your response would be
> more ontopic on an Android list.
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 02:32:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:22:43 +0100
> Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:05:44 -0800
> > Rick Moen wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting Haines Brown (hai...@histomat.ne
I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
their names.
surf
netsurf
Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
-- hendrik
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 01:30:02AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just finished an extensive and complete document on
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in
> > their names.
> >
> > surf
> > netsurf
> >
> >
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote:
> >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>
> >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:55:57AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-03-14 20:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >Can somebody please make a list, that we can put our names on, of
> >people who left Debian because of systemd? And put the name Steve Litt
> >on it please.
> >
>
> There are plenty of
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 04:57:15PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> debian-user is a mailing list of debian users. I am not a debian user
> any more, and I was not on that list even when I was a Debian user
> (and it was for about 15 years). So why on Earth should I now go there
> and shout loud at their
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 04:17:23PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recently submitted what I considered a 'grave' bugreport to
> debian[1], which had its severity downgraded to 'wishlist' and its
> title changed, all because of systemd, which I suspect is irrelevant
> to my report. Wh
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:18:10PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> Hi Hendrick,
>
> 1] As has happened in the past, I'm not sure I understand what you
> wrote.
>
> 2] Your comment about the issue being about a ''devuan package' did
> send me into a panic, so I double-checked, and it seems that the
>
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:54:17AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Please can someone try to load http://www.dhl.de with surf?
> I get a segmentation fault when opening this page.
> That happens woth both, the version from stable and the version from
> backports.
hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ surf http:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:36:11AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Am 18.03.2017 um 10:32 schrieb KatolaZ:
> >
> > it loads fine over here.
> >
> > $ surf -v
> > surf-0.7, ©2009-2015 surf engineers, see LICENSE for details
> >
> > HND
> >
> > KatolaZ
> >
> >
>
> ok, I tried it on some other pc (am
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:45:49AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:36:11AM +0100, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> > Am 18.03.2017 um 10:32 schrieb KatolaZ:
> > >
> > > it loads fine over here.
> > >
> > > $ surf -v
> > > surf-0
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:50:18AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 07:47:37AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > I have not installed plugins for surf. But could it be finding
> > plugins installed for other browsers?
> >
&g
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 01:23:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:47:37 -0400
>
> You can rule out plugins completely by running it with:
>
> surf -p
Still fails:
hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ surf -p http://www.dhl.de
(surf:26064): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_events: assertio
I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the
second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is
supposed to do -- work when things are broken..
The RAIDs are mdadm-style Linux software RAIDs. One contains a /boot
partition; the other an LVM partition tha
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 09:00:23PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the
> > second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is
> > supposed to do -- work when thi
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 06:09:34PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
...
...
>
> 3 Removing The Failed Disk
>
> To remove /dev/sdb, we will mark /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 as failed and remove
> them from their respective RAID arrays (/dev/md0 and /dev/md1).
Possibly too late. My defective RAID parti
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 07:03:53PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 25/03/2017 20:17, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >I have two twinned RAIDs which are working just fine although the
> >second drive for both RAIDs is missing. After all, that's what it is
> >supposed to do -- w
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 05:20:25PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Hendrik Boom:
> ...
> > lilo doesn't do RAID assemby, as far as I know. It just starts up
> > with a bunch of blocks at a fixed offset from an identified partition,
> > identified by UUID, and there
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 08:06:15PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> Hendrik Boom:
> ...
> > > If you have /boot on a raid-mirror on all your disks (pref. as first
> > > partition) there is no problem making lilo work. Since then it
> > > doesn't matter which
During a backup I got the following messages:
Found interrupted initial backup. Removing...
UpdateError lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases Updated mirror temp file
/usbackup/backup-by-rdiff/april/var/lib/dhcp/rdiff-backup.tmp.9233 does not
match source
UpdateError log/btmp Updated mirror temp file
/usbackup
On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 10:25:02AM +0200, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> That message means that the file changed during backup.
>
> Arnt
Thanks. Since /var/dhcp contains mostly transient information, I
won't worry about it.
Yes, I know restoring /var wholesale may be problematical. I back it
up
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:58:27PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
>
> Thanks for that hint. SpaceFM in conjunction with udevil is great. So I can
> get rid of this ugly gvfs. gfvs is broken by design, because it creates a
> ~/.gvfs directory which is not accessible by root. So every backup tool
> f
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 03:27:22PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> and udisks works without udev and libsystemd0... thanks to vdev :)
What is the status of vdev? Is it packages and inthe repositories yet?
Is it too much to hope it;s available in jessie?
-- hendrik
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:55:37PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> OK, but you would agree that, if you find yourself in such an
> "unprotected enviroment", there is not much difference between typing
> the root password and typing the password of a user who can become
> root by "sudo su".
This is true
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:13:46PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>
> On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > [...]
> > Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
> > other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan to
> > allow systemd into their softwa
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:57:09AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
...
...
>
> Systemd is not an init system; it is an operating system. Devuan runs a
> Gnu/Linux OS which is not Systemd. Even if the two are using almost the same
> kernel, they aren't the same OS. The most typical effect of this is
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 09:06:13AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> dear Hendrik,
>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to be that
> [...]
>
> thanks for writing down such a clear statement on the matter
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 15.04.2017 19:50, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > About my characterizations: "Baroque" is a relative thing. What I wrote
> > was based on "why would you not simply use a process supervisor like
> > systemd?" If a pers
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 05:04:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
> wrote:
> > On 15.04.2017 19:50, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > > About my characterizations: "Baroque" is a relative thing.
Recently I failed to attend a Debian bug squashing party here in Montreal
because I was otherwise engaged that day. If I had attended I would have
learned something about Debian packaging, which could perhaps have been
useful here.
But the report on the bug squashing party contains links to t
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:57:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 19:22:36 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 05:04:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 09:59:36PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT
> > &g
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:33:06PM +0200, marc wrote:
> the kernel thesedays
> allows one to delegate the "default-child-collector" function of
> init to other processes - that is what the container infrastructure uses.
Which seems to be an effective rebuttal against the argument for systemd
bei
I just installed lighttpd, and it properly served its front page,
which tells me I should configure the system to show my web content
instead of the frot page.
But the front page also says,
> This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the
> Lighttpd server package.
>
> This
In the middle of installing several packages using
apt-get install postgresql ruby-sass
I get a message.
Setting up postgresql-common (165+deb8u2) ...
supported-versions: WARNING! Unknown distribution: devuan
/usr/share/postgresql-common/supported-versions: 64:
/usr/share/postgresql-common/su
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:55:57AM +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> Hi KatolaZ
>
> Yes it works in Jessie!
>
> Thanks
>
> Ozi
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:42 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > the apulse package will never "hit stable", if by stable you mean
> > Devuan Jessie. Devuan Jessie will only hav
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:47:53AM +0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
>
> Oh, no, not the "Open Source Initiative"! Richard Matthew Stallman
> stills very often goes out of the way to explain that Open Source is not
> really free!
Even the GDFL (Gnu free documentation license) has restrictions on
copyi
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 08:18:57AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > I wrote a free game
> > (http://topoi.pooq.com/hendrik/dv/free/fun/wander/index.html) once
> > as part of the liberated pixel cup challenge
> > (http:
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:01:45AM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 10:47:08AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 08/05/2017 10:42, Tomasz Torcz a écrit :
> > > On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 09:41:06AM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> > > > I found another package that depends on libsyst
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 04:10:26PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote:
> On 5/9/17, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> > I thought Sane was a bare application. Does it involve also some
> >> > kind of
> >> > server to "need" socket-activation and logging?
>
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 07:36:32PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> ..I came in woody time from the cold dropped Red Hat 7.3, I've
> dist-upgraded from woody and sarge to sid/wheezy, and from lenny
> to sid/Jessie. Only reason I left SuSE-5.2 (It rocked!), was
> I didn't know how to do "insmod -v
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 08:08:51AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> apt-get dist-upgrade is what's necessary to change release - as the name
> means -, eg Wheezy to Jessie or Jessie to Ascii. This is why it should
> rarely be used, and only after carefully editing sources.list. It's a jump
> into
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:03:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 13 May 2017 01:06:38 -1000
> Joel Roth wrote:
>
> > Long before three weeks ago. I don't usually upgrade or
> > dist-upgrade unless there is some particular need.
> > Probably I'm not alone, even if that is not considered
> >
Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in
~/.local/share/Trash ?
I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there.
-- hendrik
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On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:03:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in
> > ~/.local/share/Trash ?
> >
> > I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there.
>
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:26:14PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl):
>
> > Personally, I like mc for convenience when working from the
> > commandline because of its splitscreen mode.
>
> mc (Midnight Commander) is very, very handy -- an
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:04:13PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 27-05-17 22:49, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in
> >~/.local/share/Trash ?
> >
> >I just found something like 443 gigabytes
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 03:56:09PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > I wrote:
> >
> > > Personally, I find that bash makes a fabulous file manager, along with
> > > its friends find, awk, sed, cut, etc.
>
>
> You young whipper snapper! Bash is
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 05:02:12PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom
> wrote:
>
> >
> > bash wasn't the original shell.
>
>
> I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out by then,
> but the NYIT
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:42:32AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:49:39 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in
> > ~/.local/share/Tr
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 01:55:51PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 08:16:28PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> > Florian Zieboll writes:
> > > IIRC, a sane developer had replied to that thread and said
> > > that also saned just checks for the existence of libsystemd0 but does
Re: The version of opam in Debian and DEvuan Jessie is being
officially deprecated, becuse there are serious problems with it.
Let me start with the relevant quote from the ocaml mailing list:
On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 02:31:01PM +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
> On 2 Jun 2017, at 13:16, Hend
On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 10:42:23AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Another anomaly is what when I boot the old devuan, the boot goes to
> recovery mode despite what is selected in the GRUB menu. A control-D
> continues the boot normally. It showed up only fairly recently. But
> since I seldom reboot
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 02:41:04PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Hi all,
> can someone recommend an onscreen keyboard (for use in tablet mode) with low
> dependencies and no systemd?
There used to be one that was part of X. Is it still around?
-- hendrik
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On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:27:30PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> The problem was more worked around than resolved.
>
> After having no grub modules with an installation on a new disk, whether
> DVD or netinst ISO, I knew the problem wasn't with the disk. I installed
> Devuan Jessie more or less suc
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 11:36:04PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 06/08/2017 09:07 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > I have a machine with both old-style MBR (fdisk) partitioned and
> > gpt-style (needs gdisk) partitioned disks. It boots using grub or
> > lilo.
> &g
This is in response to a bug on the Debian documenation mailing list,
but I'm replying to Devuan instead because some of it may be relevant
here.
I'm particularly concerned by the sentence at the end:
> But I haven't heard anybody claiming to have
> done any bug-free upgrades, so it's hard to b
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50:02AM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 06/10/2017 08:22 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > I have a old laptop with an EFI partition, but it has the old-style
> > MBR partitioning structure. The EFI partition was there when it was
> > new,
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 03:37:04PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 08:37:26AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > This is in response to a bug on the Debian documenation mailing list,
> > but I'm replying to Devuan instead because some of it may be relevant
&g
opam 1.2.0 is broken in practical terms. It is no longer compatible
with the current archive format.
The developers are recommending migrating to opam 1.2.2.
As far as I know, Debian and Devuan Jessie are the only distros still
shipping opam 1.2.0.
Would it be possible to provide 1.2.2 in Jes
Debian has a useful page, https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages,
which you get to via packages.debian.org
Is there anything similar for devuan?
https://www.devuan.org/distrib/packages does not work.
Nor does https://packages.devuan.org/
-- hendrik
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:45:19AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
>
> Is there a short answer (or can you point me at docs) to the question "what
> makes a DE dependent on systemd?"
>
The decision by the developers to use its interfaces instead of the traditional
ones.
-- hendrik
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 02:16:45PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 06/13/2017 11:01 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> > On 2017-06-13 06:59, aitor wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> On 06/12/2017 12:00 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017, Hendrik Boom wro
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 05:27:30PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote:
> > Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic
> > schedule?
> >
>
> The list of all available packages in the repos you have in
> /etc/apt/sources.list
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> >The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from
> >installing and using OpenRC.
>
>
> The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function
> without
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:57:52PM +, Bruce Perens wrote:
> But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That
> Must Not Be Named. :-)
I think that one fails the syntax test on package names. I don't think spaces
are
allowed.
In any case, libsystemd0 is not an init
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:55:44PM -0400, zap wrote:
>
>
> On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> >
> >> how does one remove that package without removing anything else?
> >>
> >> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit
> >
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:16:34AM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> >
> > systemd is not not only an init system, it is expanding to a whole eco
> > system around the linux kernel, creating apis for everything you can think
> > of.
>
>
> Syst
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of
> interest to radio amateurs. It had been dropped from Debian due to a
> compile failure with a newer version of GTK2. The fix was fairly
> trivial even for a GTK
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:29:27PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2017 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > >
> > > A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of
>
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 07:47:08PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-06-20 18:58, schrieb KatolaZ:
> >What could be relevant is that, as several people have already pointed
> >out, GNOME 3 is still available for platforms in which systemd is not
> >present (e.g., FreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:53:25PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> You do *not* empower people taking away what they could easily do the day
> before and suddenly prevent them from even changing the desktop's
> aesthetics. You do not empower non-technical users by forcing them into a
> "use
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 06:27:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> My experience differs: I heard many times non technical people bemoan the
> way their Android phone does things and ask me how that could be changed, how
> that could be taken away (usually pop-ups and notifications), how they
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 07:39:26AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I long for a proper Linux on my phone.
>
> Virus-makers can install software on my phone with root
> capabilities, but I am not provided convenient tools to do
> so.
I manage to get a ro
Are there instructions somewhere whereby a novice could backport a
package? I'm interested in backportin opam and related stuff because
the opam in jessie is dangerously obsolete. It is no longer
compatible with the opam archive format.
-- hendrik
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 08:16:00PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 01:59:14PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Are there instructions somewhere whereby a novice could backport a
> > package? I'm interested in backportin opam and related stuff because
>
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 05:02:54PM -0400, Gary Olzeke wrote:
> bash couldn't find 'nano' (I wanted to copy the 'sandbox' message)
> bash was looking in /usr/bin/nano - it was at /bin/nano [per 'which'
> command]
Could that be a side effect of debian/systemd's fusion of /usr with /?
-- hendrik
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 08:21:44AM -0400, Gary Olzeke wrote:
> We have made several relevant modifications in Q4OS Orion to be
> ready for installation under other Debian based operating systems, so
> anyone is now enabled to gain Q4OS Orion based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Xenial
> Xerus as well as Devua
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:17PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 12:08:47PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl
> wrote:
...
...
> > Expanding to that we can even make a libsystemd0 that actually
works with
> > any init system (except systemd) for all relevant init parts and
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 01:02:01PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult (enrico.weig...@gr13.net):
>
> > Could anyone please enlighten me, what all these "seat" and "session"
> > stuff is really about ? What is the underlying problem to solve here ?
>
> Below are a c
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 09:23:10PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets
> > selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're luc
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 05:00:07PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 22.06.2017 19:53, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>I manage to get a root accout on my phone. But even root only gets
> >>selective access to parts of the file system. And hope you're lucky
> >>whe
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 01:19:50AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 27.06.2017 11:06, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >..there's hope, it would take holding the systemd fanbois
> >to the same standards as the 'clowns' at grsecurity...
> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/26/linus_to
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:32:01AM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-06-24 at 11:04 -0500, Don Wright wrote:
>
> > Just teleport into the datacenter on the other side of the planet, or the
> > office building where your after-hours key card doesn't work because all
> > cards were cancelled
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 07:58:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> ..if apt-get upgrade fails you, aptitude upgrade might work and
> vice versa, they solve package conflicts differently.
> Safely? See above. ;o)
That's not the problem. aptitude and apt-get use the same
repositories.
The prob
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 04:36:30PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Am 03/07/2017 um 16:08 schrieb dev:
...
> >
> > useradd 0day works on Devuan. adduser 0day does not. Which is correct?
>
> I had this discussion yesterday, so here are my 2 cents :-).
>
> It is quite inconsistent what a "v
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:45:29AM -0500, dev wrote:
> On 07/03/2017 10:40 AM, Evilham wrote:
>
>
> > That's the thing, we can do that :-) probably should, but the "right
> > way" (from a standards point of view) would be to actually allow those
> > names ^^ not to disallow them. So instead of mo
On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:51:23PM +0100, Vincent Bentley wrote:
> I was using a 100MB tmpfs for /tmp which worked on Jessie. I increased
> it to 500MB and it still didn't allow apt to update on Ascii. So, to
> answer your question I put /tmp on another file system with 6GB free and
> the update wo
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 09:06:06PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 13:37:43 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I totally agree that the best thing would be for DPA to change the
> > license to a regular Expat/MIT (i.e., by removing that clause), and it
> > is evident n
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:22:53AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=867745
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
I missed the part where it says not a bug.
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On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 04:31:18PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 09:35:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Rather than argue the exact amount of time, I took his question at face
> > value and answered why it's so dam hard to alt-init a systemd-infested
> > system. You can see
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:34:29PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> A [L]GPL'ed worm or virus is Free Software, but is it acceptable
> software? Of course, if we're only concerned about its licensing, we
> won't have a care what it does to user's computers or data.
>
> It has always seemed to me
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 02:10:04PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 11.07.2017 13:55, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
>
> >3) Explain (in rational, technical, non-political) terms why people
> >should care that there is a choice - and why we think they would be
> >wise to take it.
>
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:10:20AM +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, G.W. Haywood wrote:
>
> >... back with more dumb questions presently.
>
> For those just joining us, I'm attempting to follow the instructions at
>
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=54
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