[Dng] Itches and scratches

2015-01-16 Thread Gordon Haverland
The reason Devuan exists, is an itch named systemd. Should we be looking for other itches? I happened across one, in trying to get debootstrap to run on Gentoo (to make a chroot jail). If something corrupts the status or available files in /var/lib/dpkg the system is hooped, and re-install may b

Re: [Dng] Itches and scratches

2015-01-16 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 23:49:24 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 02:54:32PM -0700, Gordon Haverland wrote: > > I happened across one, in trying to get debootstrap to run on Gentoo > > (to make a chroot jail). If something corrupts the status > > How did

Re: [Dng] The countdown

2015-01-24 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:29:10 -0800 Go Linux wrote: > I know a few folks who are expecting Devuan to fail miserably. As > the deadline approaches, I'm hoping that you guys deliver the BEST > Debian Jessie EVAH and prove these nay sayers wrong. Last progress > update was about a month ago IIRC.

Re: [Dng] Boot loader?

2015-02-01 Thread Gordon Haverland
I am just finishing getting over a grub2/gpt problem that I am sidestepping by using the IsoLinux part of SysLinux (until Devuan comes out, so I can ditch Gentoo), and I had volunteered to do a presentation on backups to my local engineering association. As far as booting goes, there are too many

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-03 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:27:43 +0100 Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > When you remove all extra stuff from TDE then you end up with a sytem > thats still superior to XFCE. Here on this Gentoo box I set up (moving away from systemd on Debian maybe 9 months ago), I was having trouble installing XFCE without b

Re: [Dng] Gufw and systemd

2015-02-05 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:41:44 +0100 Svante Signell wrote: > Regarding > udev, any comments about eudev. Is it plugin compatible, or is there > some work to do here? I'm not sure where the plugin part is coming from. I am temporarily running Gentoo, and eudev is my udev. Version is 1.10-r2 if th

Re: [Dng] LILO

2015-02-08 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 01:45:43 + Jaromil wrote: > now am I wrong to think that most of the cruft on its configuration is > added by the current way Debian handles it? I'm on Gentoo. I am supposed to have grub 2 installed. But, I can send information on how things are set up here. I do have a

[Dng] OT? Any backup experts about?

2015-02-09 Thread Gordon Haverland
There are a few different kinds of people on the mailing list. I wonder if anyone considers themselves expert at backup? I want to make a presentation to my local engineering association, which has got me thinking about things. Sorry for this interruption. Gord

[Dng] X and GPUs

2015-04-02 Thread Gordon Haverland
I briefly looked over a threaded list of the many topics that I haven't read, and none seem to address this. Originally, the reason people bought graphics cards (or better graphics cards) was to improve graphics performance. Which to a dinosaur like me means X11 and X servers. I am slowly learni

Re: [Dng] X and GPUs

2015-04-04 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 06:21:32 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:46:13 -0600 > Gordon Haverland wrote: > > > Originally, the reason people bought graphics cards (or better > > graphics cards) was to improve graphics performance. Which to a > >

[DNG] Feedback on 1.0.0 Beta DVD-ISO

2016-05-11 Thread Gordon Haverland
I downloaded the "magnet" via torrent, and a day or so later I am still getting little drabs of uploads to do. I decided to burn the amd64 DVD ISO, and try it. Xfburn worried me a little, as it showed the buffer emptied at least once while burning (I have 3 BOINC jobs, including one BOINC job usi

[Dng] CNC

2014-12-26 Thread Gordon Haverland
A while ago, I started trying to get a chroot Debian environment set up on Gentoo, and ran into troubles. Hopefully I can get back to trying to set up some environment soon, my next guess was a Debian VM based on QEMU. I really don't want to base a VM on quasi commercial or fully commercial stuff

Re: [Dng] CNC

2014-12-26 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:41:50 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Gordon: > > A while ago, I started trying to get a chroot Debian environment > > set up on Gentoo, and ran into troubles. [...] > > It's ususally not a problem doing a chroot debian on debian using > debootstrap. The issues that y

Re: [Dng] CNC

2014-12-27 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:41:50 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Don't linuxcnc use rtai (https://www.rtai.org/) ? Oops, answered that wrong. I think most people using LinuxCNC use RTAI. I think the Virginia Tech/ChronOS approach should be looked at. Gord ___