Re: [DNG] Stability will be achieved when you spend all of your time reporting on the nothing you did.

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 February 2022 at 15:23:41, Ken Dibble wrote: > Application: firefox 78.15.0esr > > URL: about:telemetry#home-tab > > Page contains statement: Telemetry is collecting release data and upload > is disabled. > > URL :about:telemetry#histograms-tab > > Page contains seemingly endless

[DNG] Installing on a Raspberry or a Banana?

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm wondering what has happened to the "embedded" subdirectory which was present under Jessie and Ascii, but no longer seems to exist for Beowulf or Chimaera (or later). I want to install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and also on a Banana Pi R1. Are these still possible? Do I need to s

Re: [DNG] Installing on a Raspberry or a Banana?

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 February 2022 at 22:14:32, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 07-02-2022 22:03, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > I want to install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and also on a Banana > > Pi R1. > Last time I needed an RPi image I used this link > https://arm-files.d

Re: [DNG] "post mortem" (was: Popcorn)

2022-02-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 20 February 2022 at 12:57:07, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Dear list, > > I just want to share the two most important things I learned yesterday: > > 1.) I can "delete" files for which I do not have write permissions, if > the containing directory is writable by me: Indeed - t

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 09 March 2022 at 15:04:09, Stuart Duckworth via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 18:41, Ken Dibble wrote: > > > > The thing I found is that the default /etc/apt/sources.list has > > chimaera-updates and chimaera-security commented out. > > Is this really well thought out? > > I wo

Re: [DNG] Latex install question

2022-03-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 11 March 2022 at 16:02:23, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile a program which expects that Latex is installed. What specific thing does it complain cannot be found when you try to compile it? I would then search for that thing in the contents of the various available pa

Re: [DNG] information request

2022-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 20 April 2022 at 13:17:48, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > In the process of upgrading my system I now am stuck at a point where > I don't know how to resolve the conundrum. > > /bin/sh: 1: /usr/bin/apt-listchanges: not found > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > > > So, where do I go from here? > > Some time ago, in a similar situati

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I

[DNG] Find efficiency [Was: Re: mouse driver question]

2022-04-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 April 2022 at 04:15:35, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > > > > I just tried several successive searches for a few unique filenames in a > > directory tree (all files in the same directory, just in case the > > position

Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 April 2022 at 13:28:38, . via Dng wrote: > I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the > audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in > the power switch). I could use some guidance in what to look for... I would start with lspci, lsusb

Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

2022-05-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 08 May 2022 at 16:24:03, william m. moss wrote: > Years ago I became fed up with too many applications and installations > corrupting my resolv.conf. I type in a resolv.conf using an editor. Me too. > To prevent the file from being corrupted by other applications: chattr +i /etc/resol

Re: [DNG] assistance sought to repair install - - re:python

2022-05-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 14 May 2022 at 14:37:41, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I was trying to clean up my /usr/bin directory so was discarding older > versions of software. You should never manually delete binaries or library files which have been installed by a package management system. If

Re: [DNG] cron runs a ghost command

2022-06-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 June 2022 at 14:02:36, Haines Brown wrote: > I find that user's cron runs a command defined in crontab -e some time > ago but then removed. At present there is no command defined in $ > crontab -e. What does "crontab -l" (as the user) or "crontab -u [username] -l" (as root) tell you

Re: [DNG] fdisk SD card partitioning question

2022-06-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 12 June 2022 at 17:11:45, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I have some directories I want to back up to an SD card while preserving > the permissions. I have tried to repartition a 64GB card and write an > ext4 filesystem. What is the existing partition table? Out of interest, since this is

[DNG] HP Ryzen Laptop

2022-06-13 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I just came across a favourable review of a new HP laptop based on AMD Ryzen. I like the name they gave it :) https://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=31205 Antony. -- Abandon hope, all ye who enter here. You'll feel much better about things once you do.

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

2022-06-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 June 2022 at 00:10:51, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Have found some PCIe 3.0 cards with 16 SATA port count. > > Do I need any kind of special driver to use this many SATA ports? tito has a good question - what sort of cards are they? But, in principle, no, you do not need any sp

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

2022-06-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 June 2022 at 01:04:24, Antony Stone wrote: > I have a machine with a motherboard having 6 SATA ports, into which are > connected one SSD and five HDDs; it also has two USB3 ports into which are > plugged two Fantec 8-drive external cabinets, each containing 8 SATA disks,

Re: [DNG] strange effect on overwrite

2022-06-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 June 2022 at 15:41:21, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > This does not make sense to me: > > >> dd if=/dev/zero of=xx bs=1G count=1 > > >> > > >> reports 2.6 GB (expected) > > IMO ~ 1GB is expected, not 2.6: > > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=xx bs=1G count=1 > 1+0 Datensätze ein > 1+0 D

Re: [DNG] PHP question

2022-06-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 June 2022 at 17:49:03, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting > system for several years. I've been using ISPConfig and the debian > perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan. I'm up to > Devuan

Re: [DNG] Linux Pro Magazine revisits Devuan

2022-07-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 06 July 2022 at 15:19:19, Steve Litt wrote: > How does one give the distro a few dollars? Try the "Donate now" link at the top right of https://www.devuan.org/ Antony. -- If you ask a Yorkshireman whether he knows the German word for "egg", don't be surprised if he just smiles an

[DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-06 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be installed as an upgrade from Devuan Beowulf or migrated from Debian Bullseye. Note that skipping releases is not supported." I seem to recall that earlier releases could be: - migrated from the equivalent Debian rel

Re: [DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-07 Thread Antony Stone
king about any of those. I'm asking about going from one version of Debian to the next version of Devuan. > On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 05:56:24PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be >

[DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 I've previously been using it with Bananian (https://www.bananian.org/ seems to be pretty broken at present), but since I use Devuan on everything else I have, I'd li

Re: [DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 13:47:00, Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known > as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 > The keyboard doesn't work. (It works on any other computer) Update: I

Re: [DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 14:52:37, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 13:47:00, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known > > as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 &g

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 05:18:47, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > I lost the single SSD on my mini PC and am in the process of rethinking > its storage. So far, I've got myself two brand new and identical PCIe > NVMe SSDs (256GB) for use in a software RAID1 setup. I think I need

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 11:58:01, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi Antony, > > Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean > time as well but still value additional input from the list. I completely agree - asking people with experience, and with whom you can have a bi

Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]

2022-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 28 July 2022 at 12:41:35, marc wrote: > > I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > > lists.dyne.org > > Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail > as lists.dyne.org - at least to me > > Perhaps this is a live server migration

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 30 July 2022 at 12:07:53, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD > > I thought most of the Devuan review was accur

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 30 July 2022 at 16:47:59, Steve Litt wrote: > Inconvenient to newbies? LOL, compare it to *too or Slackware :-) Have I missed something - are there spinoffs from Gentoo which also end in too? Just intrigued at your (twice, now) use of the wildcard. Antony. -- You can spend the wh

Re: [DNG] Wifi dropping ramdomly

2022-08-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 17 August 2022 at 12:32:18, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I've found that wifi shuts down on one of the older and slower local wifi > frequencies whenever my microwave oven is in use. I would suggest you get someone to check the seals on your oven if it's leaking that much radiation. Anto

Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem

2022-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 22 August 2022 at 18:10:53, Haines Brown wrote: > I usually have no problem sending attachments with mutt. But now I > want to send a directory that holds files: > > ./patthToDirectory/directory > > This does not work because I gather attachements must be > single files. Is not a dir

Re: [DNG] Invalid signatures on testing

2022-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 05 September 2022 at 13:35:00, Antonio Rendina via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I get invalid signatures from testing version. Should I just wait that > they get updated or is there something that I should do to update it? See https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20220903.172703.1050aabb.en.html

Re: [DNG] devuan.org signature problem

2022-09-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 08 September 2022 at 19:52:20, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > Upgrading a machine to daedalus, apt-get update returns this error: > > W: GPG error: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease: The > following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan > R

Re: [DNG] Proposed or proposed-updates

2019-01-04 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 04 January 2019 at 11:37:21, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 04-01-19 11:32, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 11:21:58AM +0100, i...@smallinnovations.nl wrote: > >> On https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list for adding the proposed > >> repo advise is: > >> > >>

Re: [DNG] nvidia driver?

2019-01-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:38:13, hal wrote: > Is there an established way to get an Nvidia driver installed on Devuan? > I've tried googling it but just end up getting debian info. What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem when the machine turns out to be

Re: [DNG] nvidia driver?

2019-01-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:49:25, hal wrote: > On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some > > problem when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian? > > Yeah, my concern is that ad

Re: [DNG] ..should we set up our own usage policy wizard script?, was: OpenSSH: delay on beowulf

2019-02-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 11 February 2019 at 10:51:09, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 10/02/2019 à 18:19, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > >> There's nothing in the logs. It just takes verry long to start. > > Tried to set LogLevel in sshd_config? > > or launch sshd with the -d option ? Maybe run wireshark at both

[DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-24 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. I'd very much prefer to do this without systemd if I can. Therefore I'm wondering what the current status of doing this on Devuan (preferably Ascii) is. https://devuan.org/os/

Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. > > Uhhhm, no, it doesn

Re: [DNG] gpt boot on bios machine

2019-03-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 02 March 2019 at 22:06:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned. > Installing for i386-pc platform. That seems like a bizarre (and unlikely to work) combination to me. What sort of machine are you starting from which needs i386

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports? > > How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports? 1. Type "w"; you should get something like: # w 12:55:35 up

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 09 March 2019 at 14:21:30, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 09/03/19 at 14:04, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > > > > using the `hostid` command, I have (Devuan ASCII): > >

[DNG] dbus [was: Re: logging uses of machine-id]

2019-03-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:07:08, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/3/19 9:25, KatolaZ wrote: > > Again, this is pretty pointless: just look for reverse-deps on libdbus > > and you'll find the answers you are looking for. > > > > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is read by anyting that opens a dbus c

Re: [DNG] dbus [was: Re: logging uses of machine-id]

2019-03-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:41:44, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote: > > If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus? > > One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more > wraps, pleas

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:05:11, Mike Bird wrote: > This attack... It was not an attack. > Any security lapse is serious. It was not a security lapse. > Claiming the incident was not serious does not make it less so, However, admitting that it was a (possibly misguided) April Fool's prank

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:39:27, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 11:12:34 Antony Stone wrote: > > On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:05:11, Mike Bird wrote: > > Which part of the following did you not understand? > > The post was easy to understand. > > It may b

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 21:15:13, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 11:51:46 Antony Stone wrote: > > So, you did not believe one of the primary project contributors when he > > admits to having created the hoax? > > He has proven himself unworthy of trust. No, he&#

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 21:27:25, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 12:18:53 Antony Stone wrote: > > If this incident has made you distrust the Devuan project, you're > > probably better off using a different distro. > > Are you a sysadmin? Yes. > Are you r

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 22:12:45, Mike Bird wrote: > An email claiming it was all a joke does nothing to prove the system > secure even if it happens to be true. It doesn't prove it to be secure, no, but it confirms that it's no less secure than it was before the joke was perpetrated. > It c

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 22:52:34, Mike Bird wrote: > None of the other core team members have commented on this fiasco. > I look forward to hearing that they have taken appropriate action. What, in your opinion, would be "appropriate"? Antony. -- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1 int main(

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 02 April 2019 at 18:46:28, Mike Bird wrote: > On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > > There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st > > April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. > > You are easily impressed. And you double down o

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

2019-04-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 07 April 2019 at 14:06:56, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Would like to read news about the conference. Did it make a difference > in the world of Linux or not? Was the message about the advantages of > modularity understood/accepted? What about init choice freedom? I'd be interested w

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote: > I suggest we pass the following resolution: > > === > At Devuan we prioritize benefits to individual users over benefits to > corporations. Within the overarching umbrella of delivering >

Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 14 April 2019 at 10:39:34, aitor_czr wrote: > On 14/4/19 10:30, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > > About corporations: > > > > If they are that interested in Devuan (and yes I'm repeating myself) they > > should put some dedicated maintainers our way so we can remove all of > > libsystemd0.

Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 April 2019 at 12:34:46, aitor_czr wrote: > On 19/4/19 12:20, aitor_czr wrote: > > as well as a replacement to sysvinit [*] > > Runit, s6, OpenRC or whatever you want :) > > Aitor. > > [*] replacement of..., better said? "replacement for" IMHO. Antony. -- "I estimate there's a

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 21 May 2019 at 03:34:55, Josef Grosch via Dng wrote: > Greetings, > > Is there a community Devuan AMI out there? Sorry, what's AMI in this context? To me it generally means Asterisk Manager Interface, but that can't be what you're asking about... > If so, has anyone used it if ther

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 May 2019 at 20:55:38, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > > PS: Please do not set "Reply-to" on list emails. > > Actually, _that_ use of the header was harmless (albeit, um, pointless). > Josef had: > &g

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-05-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 at 00:11:55, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I've been backing up my root ext4 filesystem to ntfs for some time, Depending on the purpose of your backup, this may be a poor choice of target file system. > gettings errors from rsync about failing to copy extended att

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid from scratch

2019-06-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 11 June 2019 at 20:40:09, Steve Litt wrote: > It's funny. So many times people advocate jumping through hoops to save > a millisecond in a program operated by and therefore bottlenecked by a > 100wpm typist. 100wpm is 500 keystrokes per minute, If I may pick a nit, I think it makes the

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 11 August 2019 at 14:37:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I do not know which of the hard drives on my machine is /dev/sdb/ ... > Or is there some completely different way of accomplishing what I want? # hdparm -i /dev/sdb It'll tell you the drive type and the serial number, which should als

Re: [DNG] Beowulf images for RPi3+?

2019-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 22 August 2019 at 12:53:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > hi all! > > Could somebody please point me to where I can download the latest image of > beowulf for RaspberryPi 3+ ? I searched the webpage, but did not find a > hint :( I didn't think there were any download images of Beowulf

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. > My usual tools tell me very little: > > root@midwinter:~# lsblk --fs /dev/sdb > NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT > sdb > ├─sdb1 > └─sdb2 > > root@midwinter:~# fdisk -l /dev/sd

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 08 January 2020 at 17:14:11, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > On 08/01/2020 16:02, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > phenix is the correct spelling and has been since jessie. ;) The > > French do it differently. :D > > No, the Americans cannot spell correctly, it is Pheonix in English ;-

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:00:57, 'smee via Dng wrote: > apt show showed that firmware-misc-nonfree was not installed manually. Does "aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree" help? > I tried a apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree but that > didn't do anything except mark it as manual

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Does "aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree" help? > > nothing other than itself listed after depends... > > "i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (= 20161130- > 3)" No, that's not itself :) Thats' "firmware-LIN

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:40:16, 'smee via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:29 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > > > "i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:51:32, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Right, and as I mention apt says firmware-linux-nonfree was manually > installed, but I don't recall installing it. It says it isn't a > dependency for anything else, so it wasn't installed as a dependency > when I installed something

[DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? I'm just planning to get a new PC, and I've generally preferred AMD to Intel, so just wondering whether there's anything I need to look out for with pretty much the latest hardware. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 18 March 2020 at 22:02:08, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:24:27PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? > > > > I'm just planning to get a new PC, and I've generally pref

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 12:00:18, dal wrote: > Is it only me who gets in /var/log/daemon.log loads of > > brltty[...]: file system mount error: usbfs[brltty-usbfs] -> > /var/run/brltty/usbfs: No such device Did you deliberately install accessibility for blind people? brltty is the Braille

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 13:17:41, dal wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Antony Stone > Sent: den 18 april 2020 12:05 > > On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 12:00:18, dal wrote: > > Is it only me who gets in /var

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 13:47:25, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > > > > It's definitely not Devuan-specific; I don't know whether it is > > Debian-specific, or generic to any distro which includes brltty. I've > &

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 20 April 2020 at 02:51:51, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:14:14AM +, dal wrote: > > The option to uninstall does not resolve the main problem, which should > > be fixed upstream. > > I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here. If someone connects a > braille d

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: > > Try this: > > > > https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ > > Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, require 0xBB23C00C61FC752C... 0x94532124541922FB was created in 2014, and 0xBB23C00C61FC752C was created in

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 11 May 2020 at 00:31:30, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I want to cheer up and write thanks with a small success story of > Devuan and comparison to Debian. Nice :) > I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch > keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial conso

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 16 May 2020 at 11:30:03, Steve Litt wrote: > You know, runit's or s6's process supervisor could be used, on systemd > systems, as a tobacco patch to wean the user off systemd, one process > at a time. As each daemon gets moved to runit or s6, that daemon's unit > file name gets put in

Re: [DNG] f2fs and beowulf: installation

2020-05-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 19 May 2020 at 22:30:50, ael wrote: > I am hoping to install beowulf onto a new laptop in a week or two. > I use f2fs on several drives with good results, so I want to > use it on the root partition. f2fs seems the obvious choice on ssd's. https://howtos.davidsebek.com/debian-f2fs.html

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 June 2020 at 17:01:14, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. > I cannot attach a monitor because I have no suitable cable. > Any ideas how to debug this problem? I think my initial approach would be to just buy an HDMI cable - especia

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Beowulf?

2020-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 15 June 2020 at 12:30:36, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Hello everybody! Just a quick question: > > Can I upgrade my Jessie to Beowulf directly or I have to upgrade > to Ascii first? I would expect it's exactly the same as Debian - you have to go from one release to the next, you can't sk

Re: [DNG] 'apt-get update' fails on Devuan Boewulf.

2020-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 15 June 2020 at 15:31:04, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Lately, when I attempt to update Devuan Boewulf, apt-get fails > complaining that I should explicitly accept the repositories. Reading > 'man apt-secure' talks about changes in Debian's security which has > the aim to rei

Re: [DNG] Your recent Beowulf 3.00 release

2020-07-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 08 July 2020 at 01:05:35, Alberto Pereira via Dng wrote: > Things turned out to be a little different with the DVD version > regrettably: I installed the KDE and MATE desktops together and the > following happened. When using the MATE desktop, internet via Ethernet > was not availab

Re: [DNG] Deleted qemu image

2020-07-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 16 July 2020 at 12:35:20, fraser kendall wrote: > I have just done the stupidest thing. I was freeing up (rm -rf) space > on what I thought was a storage directory (/srv), but I have now just > discovered that it contained a critical qemu image. The image is a W7 > VM and is still ru

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 21 August 2020 at 22:23:16, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? Assuming the process knows its own PD, try the 24th value in /proc/PID/stat See man proc for details. Antony. -- I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a sof

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 05 September 2020 at 19:28:24, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 08:50:32PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > If you delete lost+found by accident, you can recreate it with > > mklost+found(8). > > So lost+found isn't identified by its file name but by something else > wit

Re: [DNG] Lost and found: was Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 September 2020 at 02:39:10, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 00:43:11 -0500 > > > On 2020-09-04 22:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Delete the contents all you want, but keep the lost and found > > > directory. > Whoops. I never realized the directory was necessary, and have alw

[DNG] iSCSI and configfs

2020-09-09 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I recently installed (not upgraded) a Devuan Beowulf system which I intend to use as an iSCSI target server. I installed the targetcli-fb package for this. I was rather surprised to find that there was no startup script included in the package to start iSCSI at boot time. However, I found

Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux

2020-09-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 12:39:17, Haines Brown wrote: > This is wonderful news to a user of Palemoon/basilisk. However > installing it failed because of my ignorance: > > $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev > Reading package lists... Done > E: Unsupported file ./iceweasel-uxp-dev

Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux

2020-09-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 13:57:25, Haines Brown wrote: > It seems iceweasal-uxp-dev depends on iceweasel-uxp, which is not > available in the Beowulf package repository: > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 20:26:20, tom wrote: > > On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > > 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions > > > > > > https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ > > Ubuntu is second on their best list? More like second worst Linu

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 21 September 2020 at 18:39:43, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 01:46:32PM +0100, Peter Duffy wrote: > > One thing about this which strikes me as a bit ironic is debian's use of > > the dash shell, made to be POSIX-compliant, and so causing endless > > problems for scripts u

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 22 September 2020 at 17:21:25, Steve Litt wrote: > I would never use Bash in a shellscript. Therefore, do you think my > shebang should just go straight to #!/bin/dash instead of #!/bin/sh ? > That would certainly take the ambiguity out of it. Yes. If you're writing portable scripts y

Re: [DNG] the email universe

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 12:12:40, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Found the list of MUA useful. > > The last time I went looking though - - - it seemed to me anyway that > much more than just a MUA is needed for a complete system. Please define "complete system". I can't tell

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 15:55:22, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi everyone, > i am new on this list and in search for a place to > ask for a wired problem with a devuan installation. > > Is this the place for that kind of questions ? Yes. Did you really mean a wired problem, or is it a wei

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 > 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80] > Unable to correct missing packages. > E: Failed to fetch > http://m

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 20:31:22, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev > > amd64 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [I

Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 31 October 2020 at 23:07:42, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release Notes. > I only wish that more users would take the time to read them: An admirable comment - I only ask - how are such notes brought to people's attention when

Re: [DNG] Rspamd 2.5 for Devuan 3 Beowulf

2020-11-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 November 2020 at 12:31:30, Mike Tubby wrote: > All, > > Rspamd for Devuan 3 Beowulf is at version 1.8.1 where as Ubuntu 18.04 > Bionic is on 2.5. > > However, it appears that you can't install Ubuntu or Debian's version of > Rspamd packages because they depend on hyperscan4 and Be

Re: [DNG] Rspamd 2.5 for Devuan 3 Beowulf

2020-11-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 November 2020 at 13:03:38, Mike Tubby wrote: > Hi Antony, > > That's probably what I want but it's very opaque on how to get it ... no > download link, no repository name? The repository name is beowulf-backports > What do I need to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to get it? You ne

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