On Wed 28/Apr/2021 14:15:43 +0200 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
What I did
find somewhat weird is that it asked whether I wanted to keep all of the
xserver-xorg-video-* individually when I had already said `Y` to the
`task-desktop` package. With `apt-mark` I just marked
`task-xfce-desktop` as m
On Sat 15/May/2021 15:50:12 +0200 spiralofhope wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2021 14:27:15 +0200
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote:
On 09.05.21 08:33, tito via Dng wrote:
So the first question that arises is: how could open source and free
software projects ensure protection from damage up to
On Mon 21/Jun/2021 00:52:42 +0200 karl wrote:
Rick Moen:
...
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate
...
Thanks for the link.
And for the heads-up.
I've been using ntpdate-debian every 30 minutes for years. After tuning the HW
clock, the adjustment is usually less than 20
On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote:
I have found that each desktop uses its own method of automounting.
PCManFM may have the mounting code built-in. Or it may use udiskie.
Check PCManFM's dependencies and see if udiskie is listed. Did you
install udiskie yourself? If
On Sat 26/Jun/2021 11:45:46 +0200 o1bigtenor wrote:
so you're suggesting the use of
# apt update
# apt full-grade
or is that
# apt full-upgrade?
apt-get dist-upgrade?
Best
Ale
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On Sun 27/Jun/2021 11:07:33 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message
<87czs887cf.fsf@quark>:
Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and
dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package
dependency conflict res
Hi,
On Sat 26/Jun/2021 01:10:08 +0200 Patrick Bartek Via Dng wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
After I did a system upgrade, I couldn't mount an USB key any
more, until I manually installed udevil. What happened,
dependency changes? >
Thi
Hi,
On Sun 04/Jul/2021 21:09:01 +0200 Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:01:52 +0200
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
On Sat 26/Jun/2021 01:10:08 +0200 Patrick Bartek Via Dng wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
After I did a system upgrade
On Wed 07/Jul/2021 23:10:15 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 19:41:43 +0200
Alessandro Vesely wrote:
Here's the sequence of what I did: I wrote to the list each time, so
I know the exactly when.
4 January 2020: migrate from debian/stretch to beowulf
https://lists.dyne.
On Thu 12/Aug/2021 13:12:29 +0200 Aitor wrote:
On 31/7/21 11:20, aitor wrote:
Sometimes I use the following buffer struct for dynamic allocation:
https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/libnetaid/src/branch/master/backend_src/sbuf.c
I guess we all ended up developing something similar. My take
On Wed 25/Aug/2021 00:41:59 +0200 Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
There's also an iptables-centric method:
https://serverfault.com/questions/550276/how-to-block-internet-access-to-certain-programs-on-linux
Blocking by user-id seems to me to be the only serious option. You
should have good r
Hi all,
when I switched to Chimaera, one of the difficulties was an /etc/selinux
directory left over since several years ago. After boot with the new system, X
didn't want to start. It said something about selinux, so I found the leftover
and startx worked again.
Now I checked what selinux
On Mon 25/Oct/2021 13:12:57 +0200 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
Alessandro Vesely via Dng writes:
Did we have it on Beowulf?
Yes. I just checked on my Beowulf laptop and e.g. tar and sed both
declare a Pre-Depends: on libselinux1. Since these two are both
Essential packages, libselinux1
Hi all,
I have a .deb package from HP (hp-health) that has this requirement, and
doesn't install because of it. It got damaged somehow during the last
dist-upgrade. I think I'd better re-install it.
I have both libc6:i386 and lib32gcc-s1 (on an AMD 64bit machine).
libc6-i686:i386 is tagged
On Wed 27/Oct/2021 18:54:16 +0200 karl wrote:
For libc5, run "man libc" and look under the heading "Linux libc".
Damn my fatty fingers, it was libc6-i686. (Not that it is much newer, it was
in stretch.)
Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
The hp-health package itself is dated 2019 in the r
Hi all,
don't know since when this happened, maybe since I upgraded to Chimaera.
When I run gdb I get:
src$ gdb -n -q --args ./anyexec
Reading symbols from ./anyexec...
(gdb) break main
Breakpoint 1 at 0x7c7a: file anyexec.c, line 10.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/ale/tmp/src/anyexec
[Threa
Now this is even funnier. I installed libsource-highlight-dev and wrote a
short program whose only relevant expression is:
srchilite::SourceHighlight *X = new srchilite::SourceHighlight();
Then:
1015-north:tmp$ g++ foo.C
/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccn6kzOe.o: in function `main':
foo.C:(.text+0x46): und
Hi all,
Yesterday I upgraded and then rebooted.
how come cron daily didn't run? I have an entry in crontab saying:
47 4 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report
/etc/cron.weekly )
The cron.log just says nothing around 4:47:
Dec 21 04:09:01 78 north CRON[6746]: (r
On Tue 21/Dec/2021 14:01:16 +0100 Antony Stone wrote:
On Tuesday 21 December 2021 at 13:53:48, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
Yesterday I upgraded and then rebooted.
how come cron daily didn't run?
No idea - when is it supposed to run?
I have an entry in crontab saying:
47 4 * * 7
On Wed 12/Jan/2022 01:27:45 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:52:10 -0500
william moss wrote:
Bash is taking the string in the double quotes as a single command;
this is well documented. If either the command or parameters have
spaces, you will have to use eval. Check
On Thu 13/Jan/2022 19:38:56 +0100 Simon wrote:
Similarly with file names. Once upon a time the human had to adapt to what the
computer supported - such as fitting your entire file name into 8 characters.
Now the computer (mostly) supports what is natural for a human - and that
includes using
Hi all,
I don't use flatpak, so yesterday I removed xdg-desktop-portal from a machine
where it was causing df to err trying to access a fuse mount. I wandered how
came xdg-desktop-portal was installed.
Today I got the answer. I run apt-get dist-upgrade on another machine, and got:
Reading p
On Sat 12/Mar/2022 18:27:45 +0100 Florian Zieboll wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:06:44 +0100
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
Hi all,
I don't use flatpak, so yesterday I removed xdg-desktop-portal from a
machine where it was causing df to err trying to access a fuse mount.
I wandere
On Mon 09/May/2022 21:21:30 +0200 list-devuan wrote:
tito via Dng wrote on 2022-05-09 04:54:
Hi,
two usual culprits are network-manager and/or dhclient.
For network manager add in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main]
section;
dns=none
for dhclient create a file "/etc/dhcp/dhclie
On Sat 28/May/2022 10:23:33 +0200 Brad Campbell via Dng wrote:
Before that, I tried renaming K01network-manager to K06network-manager, to
place it after the NFS unmount, but it ran earlier anyway.
That's the wrong way to do it. Start/ stop order is defined by the so called
LSB headers[*].
On Thu 01/Sep/2022 18:33:48 +0200 Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 11:30:43AM +1000, onefang wrote:
The problem with PTRs is that I run several domains from the one IP
address, and PTR can only point to one of those. It costs money to get
more IPs, my pension is barely coping with t
On Thu 01/Sep/2022 23:22:13 +0200 marc wrote:
It's imperative that you have rdns, spf, dkim and dmarc set up and that it all matches.
My MTA will reject you if your ptr doesn't match your a record and your helo/ehlo hostname. spf, dkim and dmarc are all scored via spamassassin. Google rejects
On Fri 02/Sep/2022 22:09:27 +0200 marc wrote:
But look here: This is the sending host for the DNG mailing list:
Received: from mail.dyne.org (ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95])
I think OVH allows classless delegation or at least setting PTRs for fixed
IPs. I'd guess it's laziness
Hi all,
After the latest GR, it seems to be time to migrate. Is ASCII the right planet
to go? I found migrate-to-ascii[*] but no equivalent guide for beowulf.
Furthermore, neither that guide[*] nor the os/ page[†] mention openbox. I have
a minimal openbox installation, but it works for me. Sh
On Sat 04/Jan/2020 03:00:43 +0100 golinux wrote:
>
> Have fun!!
Ok, I did it! I slavishly followed migrate-to-ascii[*], except
* I skipped install and config of xfce4, since I had openbox,
* I skipped install sysvinit-core and reboot, as sysvinit was already running,
* I also added contrib and
Hi,
is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan?
After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try to install it, it says it
needs policykit-1. Since the latter seems to be akin to systemd, I reply 'n'.
Synaptic is convenient as it allows to search for keywords, e.g. "pdf", and
cho
On Thu 09/Jan/2020 17:50:15 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan?
>>
>> After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try
On Thu 09/Jan/2020 18:20:55 +0100 Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 1/9/20 7:04 PM, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>>
>> Hm... in fact I have consolekit installed. And if I try to remove it, apt
>> wants to install elogind instead. Perhaps consolekit is less bad...?
>>
On Fri 10/Jan/2020 01:35:55 +0100 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 09.01.20 17:44, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>>
>> Synaptic is convenient as it allows to search for keywords, e.g. "pdf", and
>> choose a package that does the task at hand. Google does the
On 07/06/2020 00:33, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 04:04:33PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
>> While upgrading a system to Beowulf, I noticed this in the changelogs.
>> Is this one of those "it was fizzling out anyway so no big deal" things, or
>> another policy change by Debian ?
Hi,
TL;DR: apt fails where apt-get works. Why?
I just updated ASCII using apt:
root@pcale:~# apt update
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease [25.6 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates InRelease [25.6 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease [
Hi all,
running `aptitude search ~o` shows hundreds of obsolete packages. There were
none before the upgrade. Well, one may say it's not so many, compared to the
thousands of `dpkg --get-selections`. However, what to do about them?
Certainly, some of them are to be purged, but which ones?
Hi
at boot, I get messages like:
dbus-daemon[1918]: [system] Service file "X" should have been named "Xn"
and will not work with system bus activation
Where some values for X and Xn are as follows:
X
Xn
/usr/shar
On Sat 26/Sep/2020 23:19:33 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote:
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote:
I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname (it's
easily the largest category).
So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this.
IIRC the specific complaint wasn
On Sun 27/Sep/2020 20:11:39 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote:
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
[...]
And it is key to get an IP address without poorly reputed neighbors —check
talosintelligence.com.
I have no choice over the neighbours !
Don't buy overly cheap connections...
I also use
On Tue 29/Sep/2020 11:10:12 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote:
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
I have no choice over the neighbours !
Don't buy overly cheap connections...
Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to
yourself then you have no contro
Hi all,
I create a terminal window for a different user using a script like so:
#! /bin/bash
#
# Extract auth of current user and run x-terminal-emulator in new user
printf -v altgksu 'export DISPLAY=:0; touch ~/.Xauthority; echo "%s"| xauth
nmerge -; dbus-launch --exit-with-x11 x-terminal-emula
Hi all,
I enabled core dumps in /etc/security/limits.d/coredump.conf (* - core
unlimited); core_pattern and suid_dumpable are set appropriately. However,
most processes have a soft limit of 0; that is, core dump disabled:
# for p in $(ps -e -o pid| tail -n +1); do prlimit --noheadings --core
On 18/11/2020 13:38, tito via Dng wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:10:19 +0100
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
I enabled core dumps in /etc/security/limits.d/coredump.conf (* -
core unlimited); core_pattern and suid_dumpable are set
appropriately. However, most processes have a soft limit of
Hi All,
Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
I'd propose to sign this one instead:
https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
See also:
An orthodox analysis entitled Justice for Dr. Richard
On Fri 26/Mar/2021 22:58:39 +0100 Riccardo Mottola wrote:
I want politics out of free software.
[...]
Remember how many voices there were back then against "evil Microsoft" and IE6?
But how many raise their voices today against Chrome?
And IBM before M$...
Two weights, two measures.
If
Hi all,
I usually prefer to stick on released system, but I'd start working on OpenSCAD
and the version available is rather oldish. As it has lots of graphical
dependencies, I think it may be easier to switch to Chimaera than to pin all
that stuff. I run Openbox, btw.
Is there a guide, a w
On Sat 17/Apr/2021 15:37:31 +0200 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
On April 17, 2021 2:33:53 PM GMT+02:00, Alessandro Vesely via Dng
wrote:
Is there a guide, a wiki, release notes, any help?
my Beowulf to Chimaera (LXqt with openbox) went quite smooth. I had posted my
notes to this list
On Sun 18/Apr/2021 11:37:58 +0200 Alessandro Vesely wrote:
I'll try tomorrow.
Everything incredibly smooth!
I don't know why I rebooted between upgrade and dist-upgrade. The graphics
didn't come up, so I run dist-upgrade on the tty terminal. That's the only
annoyance I had.
Heck, the pr
On Tue 20/Apr/2021 16:03:59 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
find /usr/bin -atime +360 | xargs -l1 apt-file find | sort
I would suggest dpkg -S instead of apt-file find, which matches prefix, not
exact file. I would also filter on the package name and ensure unicity. Also,
never log in as
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