Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Nope. My volunteering these days is difficult, much more important than > any Linux distro, and not bothered with by about 98% of the population > to which it's crucial. I'm blowing off time I really should be working > to do this volunteerism, and

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread golinux
On 2020-09-13 01:14, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:11:48 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-09-12 15:28, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I think Devuan might want to "put back" POSIX commands Debian has > removed (but provides packages for). See the following thread from > Debia

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > A link to this rant was posted on FDN yesterday. I had never heard > of Luke Smith before and was not particularly impressed with either > his presentational style or his bemoaning the death of white, male > privilege but . . . I could very well i

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 13 Sep 11:13:02 -0500 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > On 2020-09-13 01:14, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:11:48 -0500 > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > >> On 2020-09-12 15:28, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I think Devuan might want to "put bac

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread terryc
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 11:13:02 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > A link to this rant was posted on FDN yesterday. I had never heard of > Luke Smith before and was not particularly impressed with either his > presentational style or his bemoaning the death of white, male > privilege but . . . I co

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
The problem for me is that I would rather work on new stuff. Systemd and so on are symptoms of the Unix design not really being a good fit for modern demands. That doesn't mean that you band-aid them with systemd, it's time for a different architecture. It is also time for what comes after Open Sou

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:51:27 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20200913175126.gp29...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org): > > > A link to this rant was posted on FDN yesterday. I had never heard > > of Luke Smith before and was not particularly impressed with either >

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-13 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > He does appear to understand what systemd-homed is capable of doing > to us if we don't watch out: Mr. Smith didn't say hardly anything about Poettering's systemd-homed, just took a shot in passing. > https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed > https://lin