On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
>
> I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last'
> shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.
same here. w used to work with lightdm. tty logins still show normally.
also tried with proc
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> >
> > I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last'
> > shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.
>
> same here. w u
Further on this:
I've also got a dist-upgraded beowulf with a no-install-recommends
installation of task-xfce-desktop, and this one is fine wrt 'w'/'last'
report for slim using consolekt, and still fine when I downgraded
consolekit to the ascii version. The newest 'slim' is fine btw.
A little bit
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> >
> > I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last'
> > shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.
>
> same here. w u
Mark Hindley wrote on 7/3/19 8:38 pm:
> Thanks for these reports. I think there are 2 separate things going on here:
>
> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.
>
> I think this is a different issue from the slim logins not being
> registered. This seems to be long stan
On 3/7/19 11:38 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.
too busy right now, will file this bug report later today if nobody else
does.
thanks,
d
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
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>
> KatolaZ wrote on 7/3/19 9:30 am:
> > Bug report to bugs.devuan.org, please. This is something we definitely
> > need to pin down and fix. Thanks Ralph!
>
> Yes, though I just discovered it on my system, and whilst I b
Hi there
I am running devuan ascii
lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Devuan
Description: Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
Release: 2.0
Codename: ascii
uname -a
Linux jrlp02 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.144-3.1 (2019-02-19) x86_64
GNU/Linux
I currently have php 7.0 inst
On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?
>
> How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports?
1. Type "w"; you should get something like:
# w
12:55:35 up
On 3/7/19 2:53 PM, swdev via Dng wrote:
> Is there any way to install php 7.1.3? I can't see it in the repositories.
you need 3rd party repo for that. check this thread :
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2698
and use at your own risk :)
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btw, devuan beowulf repo has php7.3
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?
> >
> > How does one obtain 'w'/'l
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
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>
> Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary
> user on a laptop? Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now
> debugging? If so I'll upgrade soon and look for problems. I'd prefer not
>> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.
submitted bug report #302 minutes ago.
thanks,
d.
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On 07/03/19 at 08:38, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> It uses instead ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and
> dhclient.
Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
https://serverfault.com/questions/45862
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen, since the
programs ifconfig and iwconfig are neither. You m
On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
>> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
>> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
> The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen, s
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 8:05 am:
> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
>>> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
>>> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
>> The ter
On 07/03/19 at 22:18, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 8:05 am:
>> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
of the obsolete
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 07:22:37AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
> > Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
> > of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
>
> The terms "obsolete" and "deprec
Dear All,
I am using ascii with mate on a laptop and recently I switched from
xfce-power-manager (perfectly working) to mate-power-manager from hezeh.org
repo.
Following recommendations from repo mantainer I have also installed
mate-session-manager, mate-control-center and mate-settings-daemon fro
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am:
> I did not write they are useless. I wrote that they are obsolete and
> deprecated.
Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.
>> They work well without
>> needing constant development; security patches are good.
>
> They
(Hey, we've had this discussion at least once before.)
Quoting Ralph Ronnquist via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> The terms "obsolete" and "deprecated" are badly chosen, since the
> programs ifconfig and iwconfig are neither. You may well have your
> reasons to like other programs to achieve the fun
On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am:
>> I did not write they are useless. I wrote that they are obsolete and
>> deprecated.
>
> Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.
They are both, and I explained why th
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:48 am:
>> I believe
>
> Technical matters are not a matter of belief.
>
>> I objected to our choice of words,
>
> You "believe" things you did? Don't you even know why yourself did
> and said things?
>
>> and not your reasons for
>> insisting on using tho
On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am:
>> I did not write they are useless. I wrote that they are obsolete and
>> deprecated.
>
> Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.
Please tell us. When you need to do fi
Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 10:56 am:
> Please tell us. When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why?
> 1) ipfwadm
> 2) ipchains
> 3) iptables
I assume you ask me specifically. In most hypotheticals I care to
imagine, I would use iptables, because I believe I know it well enoug
On 08/03/19 at 00:50, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this.
My objections are technically motivated and documented.
Yours are neither.
> Just the other week I opted for using ifconfig because I couldn't work
> out the single command for
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 12:56:53AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Please tell us. When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why?
>
> 1) ipfwadm
>
> 2) ipchains
>
> 3) iptables
An interesting example you made here...
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On 08/03/19 at 01:09, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 10:56 am:
>> Please tell us. When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why?
>> 1) ipfwadm
>> 2) ipchains
>> 3) iptables
> I assume you ask me specifically.
No, I'm asking you generically.
>
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> You accused me of intentions I never had, and are still failing at
> providing with technical reasons why obsolete, nearly unmaintained,
> universally deprecated and way outdated commands are to still be used
> today when they do not offer an
So you ask a question just so you can spit on me?
Really, boy, you should have a chat with your shrink.
Ralph.
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On 08/03/19 at 01:19, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
> Allesandro, my friend, over many years on the Internet, I've found that
> certain discussions are best concluded with amicable production of the
> set of facts that all present (within reason; and my
Quoting Ralph Ronnquist via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this.
I obviously would not presume to speak for Allesandro, but sometimes
people get frustrated in Internet arguments in ways they might not in
more-interactive discussion. (Anyway, I'd alw
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:31:06PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary
> > user on a laptop? Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now
> > d
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary
> user on a laptop?
Simple solution: Define yourself to be extraordinary. ;->
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:39 +0100
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
> >> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in
> >> place of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and
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