Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:48 am: >> I believe > > Technical matters are not a matter of belief. > >> I objected to our choice of words, > > You "believe" things you did? Don't you even know why yourself did > and said things? > >> and not your reasons for >> insisting on using those words, > > I have technically proven and linguistically sound reasons to call > those commands what they are, that is obsolete and deprecated, like an > overwhelming majority of technically minded people do. > >> or your reasons for wanting these >> programs to not be used. > > I never tried to impose my will on anybody else. You're doing a > straw-man attack on me. > >> Like many people, you are free to use whichever >> programs you may want, and you are free to think that your choice of >> programs for your purposes is the One And True choice, even when it >> isn't. There is no reason for you to go emotional about it. > > You accused me of intentions I never had, and are still failing at > providing with technical reasons why obsolete, nearly unmaintained, > universally deprecated and way outdated commands are to still be used > today when they do not offer any advantage over the current, maintained, > universally available and much more versatile and powerful and still > easy to use commands that have been available for decades.
It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this. Just the other week I opted for using ifconfig because I couldn't work out the single command for confguring a tap with an IP address, and bring it up. With ip, I seemed to need 3 commands, so at that time I liked ifconfig better. It's certainly not obsolete yet. Perhaps there is a single ip command, and perhaps I can learn it, but that still wouldn't make ifconfig obsolete. Though, I realise I should let you call it/them "deprecated"; it may well be how you think of them even if I don't do that. The word is just an expression of an opinion about these programs and not an attribute of them. Ralph. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng