Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 2/12/19 3:32 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> it's a Debian thing that depend on systemd to start at reboot > > Sounds like something we don't want. just for the record, unattended-upgrades doesn't depend on systemd. and it's something i use/want on servers(debian+devuan). for security updates only.

Re: [DNG] correct repos for running testing/unstable?

2019-02-13 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 2/13/19 12:09 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Are you using pkgmaster in your sources and with experimental and ceres > too? i'm using repos below, but what's the correct repos for running devuan "testing/unstable"? is experimental needed? : deb http://gr.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main d

Re: [DNG] correct repos for running testing/unstable?

2019-02-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:33:18AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 2/13/19 12:09 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > > Are you using pkgmaster in your sources and with experimental and ceres > > too? > > > i'm using repos below, but what's the correct repos for running devuan > "testing/unstab

Re: [DNG] correct repos for running testing/unstable?

2019-02-13 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Hey, thanks for the fast reply and details:) On 2/13/19 11:54 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > You don't need ceres (unstable), unless you really want to, and you > know exactly what you are doing. spent 15years with debian sid, don't really mind. enjoy finding bugs and workarounds.. and prefer a rolling

Re: [DNG] Mounting USB drives [Was: Re: Help testing new policykit in Beowulf

2019-02-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 13/2/19 6:31, Erik Christiansen wrote: Sounds like that gvfs package does a lot more. All I've ever had to do was: # apt-get install pmount Here that's mostly used to unmount a drive mounted automagically on plug-in. Erik Both refracta and gnuinos use the following scripts (depending

Re: [DNG] Mounting USB drives [Was: Re: Help testing new policykit in Beowulf

2019-02-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 13/2/19 12:20, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, On 13/2/19 6:31, Erik Christiansen wrote: Sounds like that gvfs package does a lot more. All I've ever had to do was: # apt-get install pmount Here that's mostly used to unmount a drive mounted automagically on plug-in. Erik Both refracta and gn

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for >> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to >> reboot and provides a number of k

[DNG] WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD=none

2019-02-13 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Hi all! Maybe somebody can shed some light in here: /etc/default/networking has an option "WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD" and "WAIT_ONLINE_IFACE". The documentation gives the impression that one or both methods can be used to get rid of that pesky endlesss wait while booting without network. Is this impr

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 09:12:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi KatolaZ, > > KatolaZ writes: > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > >> > >> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for > >> me. Apart from running t

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I just found the following comment on Soylent News: >> >> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap >> >> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgr

Re: [DNG] WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD=none

2019-02-13 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Ok, an addition to this issue: Anno domini 2019 Wed, 13 Feb 13:14:36 +0100 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: > Hi all! > > Maybe somebody can shed some light in here: > > /etc/default/networking has an option "WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD" and > "WAIT_ONLINE_IFACE". The documentation gives the impression that

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: [cut] > > Checking the other way around with (notice the lack of an 'r' on the > depends!) on, for example, task-gnome-desktop > > apt-cache depends --recurse \ > --no-suggests \ > --no-co

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: [cut] > > As long as parl-desktop cannot be selected in the installer, I would > have said you were right if it weren't for what follows below. > Dear Olaf, I double-checked and there is no task-parl-desktop in Devuan. There is

Re: [DNG] WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD=none

2019-02-13 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 13/02/2019 à 14:32, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : Ok, an addition to this issue: Anno domini 2019 Wed, 13 Feb 13:14:36 +0100 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: Hi all! Maybe somebody can shed some light in here: /etc/default/networking has an option "WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD" and "WAIT_ONLINE_IFACE".

Re: [DNG] WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD=none

2019-02-13 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Wed, 13 Feb 16:06:07 +0100 Didier Kryn scripsit: > Le 13/02/2019 à 14:32, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > Ok, an addition to this issue: > > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 13 Feb 13:14:36 +0100 > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: > >> Hi all! > >> > >> Maybe somebody can shed some light in

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 06:02:52AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I just found the following comment on Soylent News: > > > > > > https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap > > > > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] WAIT_ONLINE_METHOD=none

2019-02-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 13/2/19 16:59, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:     If your ethernet cable can be either plugged or unplugged and you want your system to react when you plug/unplug a cable in, then you need a server to detect these changes and invoke ifup/ifdown accordingly. This server can be ifplugd or netp