[DNG] Which repository has apulse package?

2017-10-29 Thread Hughe
Hi, I learned that apulse make running higher version of firefox without pulseaudio. I put stable, testing, unstable in the sources.list file. After updating, apt-cache search apulse brings no package. deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free deb http://aut

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:32:32 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20171029063232.gd30...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > I don't know how to do the preceding, and I'm forever prioritizing > > other things above learning it. > > Well, if you have a spare hour

Re: [DNG] Which repository has apulse package?

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:52:38 +0900, Hughe wrote in message : > Hi, > > I learned that apulse make running higher version of firefox without > pulseaudio. > > I put stable, testing, unstable in the sources.list file. > After updating, apt-cache search apulse brings no package. > > deb http://a

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:41:46 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20171029094146.5b8f8508@d44>: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:32:32 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20171029063232.gd30...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > > > I don't know how to do the preceding

Re: [DNG] Clear communication (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-29 Thread John Hughes
On 29/10/17 00:41, Patrick Meade wrote: On 10/28/2017 02:06 AM, John Hughes wrote: While keeping your eyes peeled is obviously a good thing please remember the downsides of crying wolf when the wolf isn't there. Clear communication is also a good thing. Perhaps the words "[D]rops the Debian-s

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:32:32PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > My concern is mostly that you're giving _generally_ bad advice that is > likely to bite people if/when they keep applying it, and apply it to > software more interdependent with the rest of the system. If you merely > said 'Hey, I do thi

[DNG] ..our Devuan packaging policy is different how?, decides guidelines etc, was: I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 10:00:13 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20171029100013.25b36b1a@d44>: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:41:46 +0100, Arnt wrote in message > <20171029094146.5b8f8508@d44>: > > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:32:32 -0700, Rick wrote in message > > <20171029063232.gd30...@linuxmafia.com>: > >

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 10:32:29 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > And, usually upstream > developers know how to deal with the particular problem their > software is made for, but have no idea how to integrate it with the > rest of the system. The preceding sentence exactly describes me, which is why I'

[DNG] First steps on possible runit package

2017-10-29 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I wrote to runit author Gerrit Pape about his vision of how runit should be implemented, and also the supervision list with a couple questions. Hopefully, when I get a partner to do the actual packaging, it will go fairly quickly. SteveT Steve Litt October 2017 featured book: Rapid Lear

Re: [DNG] First steps on possible runit package

2017-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:00:35AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote to runit author Gerrit Pape about his vision of how runit > should be implemented, and also the supervision list with a couple > questions. Hopefully, when I get a partner to do the actual packaging, > it will go fai

Re: [DNG] xrandr on Ascii for two displays

2017-10-29 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 20:14:43 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > I have two displays, one built-in to a laptop and another external, and > am not able to get any signal to the external one. The same arrangement > works fine with other distros. I've tried with the display managers for > both XFCE4 and

Re: [DNG] xrandr on Ascii for two displays

2017-10-29 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/29/2017 01:01 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: [snip]> Check the output of xrandr --query for pointers. Thanks. I can see that eDP-1 and HDMI-1 are both connected. $ xrandr --query | grep -E '^[[:alpha:]]' Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192 eDP-1 connected p

Re: [DNG] xrandr on Ascii for two displays

2017-10-29 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 13:37:00 +0200 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/29/2017 01:01 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > [snip]> Check the output of xrandr --query for pointers. > > Thanks. I can see that eDP-1 and HDMI-1 are both connected. > > $ xrandr --query | grep -E '^[[:alpha:]]' > Screen 0: mi

Re: [DNG] Getting to know Chris Lamb

2017-10-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 28 Oct 18:36 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > I was just looking at some old threads over at DUF and ran across this: > > https://www.debian.org/vote/2017/platforms/lamby > > Haven't given it a thorough reading but what I did see I found interesting . > . . Thanks for that. I've not k

Re: [DNG] First steps on possible runit package

2017-10-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:38:39 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 06:00:35AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I wrote to runit author Gerrit Pape about his vision of how runit > > should be implemented, and also the supervision list with a couple > > questions. Hopefu

Re: [DNG] Getting to know Chris Lamb

2017-10-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:05:57 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 28 Oct 18:36 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > I was just looking at some old threads over at DUF and ran across > > this: > > > > https://www.debian.org/vote/2017/platforms/lamby > > > > Haven't given it a thorough reading bu

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Hell yeah. I have a completely opposite view: if a piece of software hasn't > been packaged, it's most likely because it is crap -- otherwise someone > would bother to do the work. And, usually upstream developers know how to > deal with the particu

Re: [DNG] Getting to know Chris Lamb

2017-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I'd add one more reason. Did everyone notice that neither Chris Lamb > nor his opponent give the slightest mention to the systemd fiasco? At > least a year of bad feelings. Said contention ran from 2012 to 2014. A quick check of /usr/bin/cal will

Re: [DNG] First steps on possible runit package

2017-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Also, while I have your attention, all you guys talk about two > different packages: runit and runit-init. Upstream distinction, not distro. runit-init is a binary executable that can be the first process. Or, if you prefer, you can use your ch

Re: [DNG] First steps on possible runit package

2017-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 12:11:08PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > One more thing. I *VERY* strongly believe that installing one init > system should not deinstall another init system. You mean, systemd vs systemd-sysv, sysvinit vs sysvinit-core? -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Laws we want back: Poland, Dz.U. 1921 nr.30

[DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-10-29 Thread J. Fahrner
https://osseu17.sched.com/event/ByYt/replace-your-exploit-ridden-firmware-with-linux-ronald-minnich-google Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

2017-10-29 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/30/2017 07:59 AM, J. Fahrner wrote: > https://osseu17.sched.com/event/ByYt/replace-your-exploit-ridden-firmware-with-linux-ronald-minnich-google Thanks. The presentation is online, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo&index=65&list=PLbzoR-pLrL6pISWAq-1cXP4_UZAyRtesk /Lars