Am 2017-09-20 22:03, schrieb zap:
Noscript is not on chromium or google chrome
for an obvious reason.
Noscript is the reason I will always use waterfox or a modified firefox
over anything else.
There is ScriptSafe for Chrome/Chromium which is basically the same as
Noscript.
Jochen
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:36:22 +0200, mdn wrote in message
<59c30986@openmailbox.org>:
> Le 21/09/2017 00:53, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:55:47 +0200, mdn wrote in message
> > <59c2e3e3.6010...@openmailbox.org>:
> >
> >> Le 20/09/2017 22:26, airmoose a écrit :
> >>> Sinc
Since upgrading from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I have a font size problem
in several programs, like flpsed, imagemagick, timidity: the font size used in
the GUIs of those programs is so small I cannot read them.
I suspect it might be a Qt/Gtk problem ?
Any idea where to dig for making tho
Le 20/09/2017 à 17:10, dev a écrit :
On 09/20/2017 01:30 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Anyone have it working on Devuan and Firefox 55.0.3 64bit ?
I built it on Devuan Jessie without any glitch and Skype seems happy
with it.
Oh! I did not see this earlier. how are you launching firefox?
Do
Le 21/09/2017 à 11:49, Didier Kryn a écrit :
The preferred browser on the two machines is Palemoon, installed
from some Suze repository. There is also Firefox installed and it
works with Alsa only, since it is always launched from the standard
.desktop launcher. Maybe I should check if the
Le 20/09/2017 à 20:07, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:31:38 -0400
John Franklin wrote:
That said, there are plenty who either like it or at least have
gotten used to it. If we could get Gnome working here, it would
attract more users to Devuan.
Serious question: Do we want that
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:57:37 +0200, Didier wrote in message
<848f652f-8b44-800f-88c1-da35cb086...@in2p3.fr>:
> Le 20/09/2017 à 20:07, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:31:38 -0400
> > John Franklin wrote:
> >
> >
> >> That said, there are plenty who either like it or at least have
On 21.09.2017 04:09, zap wrote:
Hi,
haven't tried waterfox yet, and didn't get in contact w/ the
folks behind, but I've started an own fork: Librezilla.
https://github.com/Librezilla
It's pretty experimental yet, and still based on esr52 (because of
the rust problem).
BTW: it seems that wat
Because of discussions here about suitable open-source GUIs, I'm
pointing out that Qt4 is being dropped by Debian. So anyone wanting
Qt will have to use Qt5. I don't know what the portability or upgrade
implications are.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/08/msg6.html
-- he
>
> BTW: it seems that waterfox *does* enable EME:
>
> https://github.com/MrAlex94/Waterfox/blob/e0e4243228d88be5e09aaa964b5692d8db1553f0/.mozconfig
>
>
> > ac_add_options --enable-eme=widevine
>
>
> --mtx
Thankfully that is the only issue I know of, and it can be disabled. in
many ways...
__
Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the CLI.
Now, I get:
ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su
Password:
No protocol specified
xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0'
No protocol specified
xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0'
No protocol specified
xmodmap: unable to open
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:12:19AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the
> CLI.
>
> Now, I get:
>
> ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su
> Password:
> No protocol specified
> xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0'
> No protocol specif
On 2017-09-21 10:12, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
And by the way, logging in under xdm (?) I had a shock when the Debian
name and logo appeared on the login screen...
Cheers,
Ron.
Hi Ron,
There was an issue opened up about this 9 months ago:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/
On 09/21/2017 11:33 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:12:19AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>> Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the
>> CLI.
>>
>> Now, I get:
>>
>> ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su
>> Password:
>> No protocol specified
>> xmodmap: un
On 21.09.2017 16:49, zap wrote:
Thankfully that is the only issue I know of, and it can be disabled. in
many ways...
Not entirely trivial (at least on esr52): assuming it builds at all,
it will only disable the widevine part, but still leaves the whole
EME infrastructure intact. When I last ch
On 21.09.2017 16:51, zap wrote:
I look forward to such an idea, will it support alsa and
Didn't touch the ALSA part yet - if upstream supports it,
shouldn't be a problem. OTOH, if upstream drops it, we need
some deeper thoughts on that. Perhaps think about an generic
crossplatform audio librar
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:39:13 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> There was an issue opened up about this 9 months ago:
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/issues/14
> Devuan alternatives were created specifically for xdm but never
> transferred to the project and repackaged.
OK ta, I'
>
> > be completely software
>
> If you MPL free, yes. No blobs, etc.
> And no systemd deps, of course (actually, haven't seen any yet)
> Also get rid of all dbus deps.
>
>> disable eme, tracking from mozilla, etc...?
>
> yes, patching it out completely. also geoloc, sensors, etc.
>
> Note: I can'
Excuse me for interrupting this conversation, but, what is the point
of making sure a browser is secure knowing there is a complete HIDDEN
OS running all the time? I have no idea what it does and what
functions it offers to the outside world. To learn about such
functions I must either believe Int
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:33:23 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> you probably just need to `xhost +` from the "regular" user account
> before su-ing. By default the current display is not accessible by any
> user except the one who launched it. root is not an exception.
Anything against having `xhost +` in ~
help the guy who started GNOME.ORG "earn a job at Microsoft",
Some people consider that a reward.
Arnt
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On 21.09.2017 18:12, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Excuse me for interrupting this conversation, but, what is the point
of making sure a browser is secure knowing there is a complete HIDDEN
OS running all the time?
Not everybody uses (recent) x86 :p
We can't take care of everything at once, and IME b
Didier Kryn wrote:
> I built Apulse on a Devuan-Jessie x86_64 without Pulseaudio. This was
> for Skype to install without error.
That's odd. I installed the skypeforlinux.deb file on deuvan jessie without
the pulseaudio server.
I do have some pulse audio libraries:
libpulse-dev:amd64 5.0-1
On 21.09.2017 19:49, Joel Roth wrote:
That's odd. I installed the skypeforlinux.deb file on deuvan jessie without
the pulseaudio server.
yes, it depends on pa library, but not the service - which is correct,
as the server could be remote.
--mtx
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On 21/09/17 15:03, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Because of discussions here about suitable open-source GUIs, I'm
pointing out that Qt4 is being dropped by Debian. So anyone wanting
Qt will have to use Qt5. I don't know what the portability or upgrade
implications are.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-de
On 21/09/17 16:41, fsmithred wrote:
On 09/21/2017 11:33 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:12:19AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the CLI.
Now, I get:
ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su
Password:
No protocol specified
x
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:43:54 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
> Also, 'su' is just wrong, don't use it, always use sudo,
If I wanted to always use sudo I would be running *ubuntu...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Quoting Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
> Anything against having `xhost +` in ~/.bashrc ?
Local security, disabling of.
One different method:
$ ssh -Y root@localhost
# gparted &
#
The '-Y' option enables X11 forwarding. (This of course requires sshd.)
You can probably
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:43:54 +0100
Dave Turner wrote:
>
> Also, 'su' is just wrong, don't use it, always use sudo, and if you
> can find a decent .deb of OpenBSD 'doas' ported to linux use that, it
> is even better!
>
Just because you think using 'su' is wrong, doesn't make it wrong, it
is jus
Rowland Penny writes:
This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmin.
Systemd isn't forced on you. LOTS of other things are, starting with the
choice of .deb as package format.
Arnt
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:18:41 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Rowland Penny writes:
> > This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
> > main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmin.
>
> Systemd isn't forced on you. LOTS of other things are, starting w
On 21/09/17 21:33, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:18:41 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Rowland Penny writes:
This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmin.
Systemd isn't forced on you. LOTS o
Rowland Penny writes:
Please stop being obtuse, You know very well what I meant.
I do indeed, and I think you're wrong. Devuan has taken a no-systemd
decision, that's all. That isn't a promise from anyone to provide
alternatives in any other question, or to make alternative packages. Not
eve
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:41:49 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Rowland Penny writes:
> > Please stop being obtuse, You know very well what I meant.
>
> I do indeed, and I think you're wrong. Devuan has taken a no-systemd
> decision, that's all. That isn't a promise from anyone to provide
> alter
My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble
under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a Pcmanfm
as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how to launch a prog as
root from the CLI..
Why did the configuration change ?
How
On 21/09/17 21:41, Dave Turner wrote:
On 21/09/17 21:33, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:18:41 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Rowland Penny writes:
This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmi
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 05:21:17PM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without
> trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have
> to launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this
> morning how to laun
Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 21.09.2017 19:49, Joel Roth wrote:
> >
> >That's odd. I installed the skypeforlinux.deb file on deuvan jessie without
> >the pulseaudio server.
>
> yes, it depends on pa library, but not the service - which is correct,
> as the server could be remote.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:06:40 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20170921190640.gm11...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
>
> > Anything against having `xhost +` in ~/.bashrc ?
>
> Local security, disabling of.
>
> One different method:
>
> $ ssh -Y r
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
> ..my prefecence was the -X option: ssh -X root@localhost
> until Debian killed it with some new policy.
Was it Debian that did that? I was never sure. I just remember that
'ssh -X' suddenly no longer did X11 forwarding as it used to, but I
looked up the
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
[cut]
> The bottle of wine isn't quite finished yet, but I am not trying to force
> anyone to stop using 'su'.
>
> It IS a really bad idea though, rummage the interweb, somewhere in there is
> a really good write up on why su is bad an
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 05:21:17PM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble
> under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a
> Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how to launch
Am 2017-09-21 23:21, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without
trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to
launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them.
I had similar issues some time ago and switched to spacefm with ud
Quote: "if you build your own boards"
You mean design my own computer motherboards?! Excuse me, but that is
definitely the task of experts, not computer end users. Yes, I have
knowledge about transistors, logic gates and some circuits employing
them, but that is NOT enough. Furthermore, even if I
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