Le 16/09/2017 à 13:03, Florian Zieboll a écrit :
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 23:43:34 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
Is it just me, or does ssh-agent interacting with dbus seem like a
horrible idea?
IIUC, they are only interacting insofar, that the ssh-agent will
terminate as soon as (in this case) dbus(-l
On 17/09/17 07:50, KatolaZ wrote:
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:49:28AM +0200, arne wrote:
Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
I had a fierce struggle with rc.local and systemd.
Took me 24 hours,
lots of coffee and pizza, (to abandon rc.local for most part in the end)
I am f
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:25:04AM +0100, Dave Turner wrote:
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> >
> >It is quite possible that an official safe upgrade path will be
> >provided also between Debian stretch and Devuan ASCII, as ASCII
> >becomes stable.
> >
> >HND
> >
> >KatolaZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
Hi there
On 17/09/17 07:49, arne wrote:
Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
I had a fierce struggle with rc.local and systemd.
Took me 24 hours,
lots of coffee and pizza, (to abandon rc.local for most part in the end)
I am feeling a pain in my heart if I have to leave d
When I try to install the package scdaemon, it wants a different version
of gnupg-agent than what is available in the repository.
So how should I handle the following error?
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
scdaemon : Depends: gnupg-agent (= 2.1.18-6)
but 2.1.18-8 is to
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:50:56AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:49:28AM +0200, arne wrote:
> >
> > Now the question: I run debian stretch.
> > is it hard to switch to devuan or is a new install preferred?
> >
>
> "upgrading" from Debian to Devuan is officially supported so f
On 2017-09-17 00:49, arne wrote:
Now the question: I run debian stretch.
is it hard to switch to devuan or is a new install preferred?
Sick and tired of systemd,
greeting,
SP
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Two people - blap and si\ver_ - recently recently reported doing that
Hi Arne,
I have been using some Debian derivative or another since 2004ish. It's
been my companion, if not my source of income, and at times a source of
comfort that helped me transcend difficult circumstances. I
self-identify as "Average Joe" or "end user" and have no current plans
for obtaining
On 09/17/2017 07:45 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:
> When I try to install the package scdaemon, it wants a different version
> of gnupg-agent than what is available in the repository.
> So how should I handle the following error?
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>scdaemon : Depend
On 09/17/2017 08:54 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:50:56AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:49:28AM +0200, arne wrote:
>>>
>>> Now the question: I run debian stretch.
>>> is it hard to switch to devuan or is a new install preferred?
>>>
>>
>> "upgrading" fro
I'm running xfce on Devuan Jessie.
When I start xfce, firefox autostarts.
This is annoying. I'll start firefox whn I want to see it.
I set the "session and startup" setting in firefox to "never".
But it keeps getting changed (I presume by firefox) to "If running".
This is obnoxious. Is there
On 09/17/2017 01:49 PM, fsmithred wrote:
> I just did an upgrade from debian stretch to devuan ascii about an hour
> ago. It was pretty painless, but I didn't install a lot to begin with.
>
> - standard system install of debian stretch plus openbox, lxterminal,
> lxpanel and a few other packages.
On 09/17/2017 02:19 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I'm running xfce on Devuan Jessie.
>
> When I start xfce, firefox autostarts.
>
> This is annoying. I'll start firefox whn I want to see it.
>
> I set the "session and startup" setting in firefox to "never".
>
> But it keeps getting changed (I pres
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 05:27:19 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 04:07:01PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:49:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > > Just a guess: A rolling-release Devuan wouldn't be especially
> > > popular.
> >
> > Isn't Devuan tes
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 08:46:14 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 07:49:28 +0200
> arne wrote:
>
> > Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
>
> Maybe sooner! :-)
>
> > I had a fierce struggle with rc.local and systemd.
> > Took me 24 hours,
> > lots
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 01:49:00PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> - standard system install of debian stretch plus openbox, lxterminal,
> lxpanel and a few other packages.
> - changed sources to devuan ascii, update, add key, update again
> - install sysvinit-core, reboot.
> - [optional] install live-co
On Sunday 17 September 2017 at 21:30:16, Adam Borowski wrote:
> With KVM, there's no need for X to run as root.
I don't see the connection between these two - are you talking about the
virtualisation framework and the graphical windowing environment?
Unless I've got my abbreviations screwed up,
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 09:39:02PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Sunday 17 September 2017 at 21:30:16, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> > With KVM, there's no need for X to run as root.
>
> I don't see the connection between these two - are you talking about the
> virtualisation framework and the grap
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:49:28 +0200
arne wrote:
> Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
I advise not to wait. Systemd's architecture is so overcomplexified
that it takes a highly paid crew of what, six developers, to keep it
from blowing up. Would you want a battery like that
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 04:56:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:49:28 +0200
> arne wrote:
>
> > Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan.
>
> I advise not to wait. Systemd's architecture is so overcomplexified
> that it takes a highly paid crew of what, six d
On 09/17/2017 04:30 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 01:49:00PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
>> - standard system install of debian stretch plus openbox, lxterminal,
>> lxpanel and a few other packages.
>> - changed sources to devuan ascii, update, add key, update again
>> - install sy
* On 2017 17 Sep 15:57 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Dennis Thompson and the boys really, really, REALLY should have
> specified that every home directory have a subdirectory called etc, and
> every and all config that gets done in the home directory get done in
> the /home/slitt/etc tree. This would
On 09/17/2017 04:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 05:27:19 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 04:07:01PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:49:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Just a guess: A rolling-release Devuan wouldn't be especially
>
my bad, I responded to wrong message and it took off before I could stop
it...
sorry about that.
On 09/17/2017 09:08 PM, zap wrote:
> On 09/17/2017 04:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 05:27:19 +0100
>> KatolaZ wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 04:07:01PM -0400, Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 07:14:23PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> As I see it, most of the problem has to do with poorly written software
> that doesn't gracefully handle old configurations and little to do with
> how those configurations are stored in $HOME. I'll give Thompson a pass
> as the pr
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