Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout [was Re: resolved]

2016-06-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 10:24:55AM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > linuxvoice.com/interview-lennart-poettering > > It's an old article, but as I read, I realized how much I disagree with > Lennart. TBH, he sounds like an Apple fan. > Good morning, Simon! ;) > > I don't like Upstart or Cannonical

[DNG] /etc/network/interfaces bridges (was: ifconfig vs ip)

2016-06-09 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Walter writes: > After some testing, I have a question about an option in > /etc/default/shorewall: > wait_interface > If I add the bridge interface to that line, shorewall will not start > unless a container is brought up. I suppose that is why I was thinking > of bridging the bridge inerfa

Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout

2016-06-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 08/06/2016 23:49, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroup-v2.txt Thanks for the link. Not that I want to control resource usage, but cgroup can help to keep track of processes. Didier ___ Dng mailing l

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Hobson
Simon Walter wrote: > After some testing, I have a question about an option in > /etc/default/shorewall: > wait_interface > If I add the bridge interface to that line, shorewall will not start unless a > container is brought up. I suppose that is why I was thinking of bridging the > bridge ine

Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout [was Re: resolved]

2016-06-09 Thread Dan Purgert
Simon Walter wrote: > On 06/09/2016 07:07 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > >Yet another thing that systemd is getting its tentacles into ... wonder > >when the majority of users will say "enough is enough" with it? > > > > > > They will not. The majority of users are freeloaders. So we may end up > using

Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout [was Re: resolved]

2016-06-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:22:40 -0400, Dan wrote in message <20160609152240.gm9...@xps-linux.djph.net>: > Simon Walter wrote: > > On 06/09/2016 07:07 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > >Yet another thing that systemd is getting its tentacles into ... > > >wonder when the majority of users will say "enough is

Re: [DNG] LyX questions on LaTeX-community.org

2016-06-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:50:16 +1200 gordon cooper wrote: > On 09/06/16 02:59, Richard Heck wrote: > > > > Alternatively---here's a crazy idea---we could suspend the mailing > > list and send people to the forum > > > > Richard > > > > > Perhaps not really crazy at all. I work in both ma

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-09 Thread Greg Olsen
On 2016-06-09 02:50, Simon Walter wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After some testing, I have a question about an option in > /etc/default/shorewall: > wait_interface > If I add the bridge interface to that line, shorewall will not start > unless a container is brought up. I suppose that is why I was thi

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/09/2016 10:24 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: Or I could do as Mr. Hobson does and run shorewall in a container. Would that actually be a more insulated "secure" approach? "Security" is a relative thing, and depends on your priorities. Putting the firewall in it's own VM would improve isolation

[DNG] LXC template for Devuan

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Walter
Hi all, I am wondering if it is a good idea to submit a modified version of the debian template to the upstream LXC project. I am not sure who wrote those scripts. It seems like that is part of LXC source. So I am guessing it has nothing to do with the Debian LXC package maintainer. Also,

Re: [DNG] LXC template for Devuan

2016-06-09 Thread Simon Walter
(A little update) What I did was: cp /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-debian /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-devuan cp /usr/share/lxc/config/debian.common.conf /usr/share/lxc/config/devuan.common.conf cp /usr/share/lxc/config/debian.userns.conf /usr/share/lxc/config/devuan.userns.conf I don't know i

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-09 Thread Greg Olsen
On 2016-06-10 03:02, Simon Walter wrote: [snip] > Though, you do need to specify the bridge to be created and destroyed, > which is something I thought was done automatically. It is when there > are ports specified. As Rainer pointed out, when bridge_ports is "none", > then the bridge device is

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-09 Thread Greg Olsen
On 2016-06-10 06:34, Greg Olsen wrote: [snip] > The only side-effect are the extra messages during ifup with > "bridge_ports none": > > iface testbr1 inet static > bridge_ports none > address 10.91.0.1 > netmask 255.255.0.0 > network 10.91.0.0 > broadcast